World: r3wp

oh my... don't do that or you will do a nervous breakdown

like Graham for example, ahahaha

;-);-);-) near coma

(i must confess, i check rebol.net several times per day)

we are junkies ;-)

but i turned crazy long time ago

well , good night all of you ;-)

You layer together with the hens

(strange trad)

to bed with the chickens (better)

write a script to check rebol.net .. don't use your browser!

Are you guys rebolers or not???

ahah, i like to waste my time

Steeve, when Reichart posted that photo and you said I looked crazy, 
I was worried that my eye strain from the glare was showing in the 
picture. I couldn't see the picture, as I was in it. Having seen 
it now I should have been more concerned about how loose clothing 
makes me look 30+ pounds heavier. By the way, last week was the first 
time most of the REBOL community had seen me, or any met me.

As for whether or not I am crazy - not in any way that shows :)

Need another Devcon!

I could never afford to go before, but next time I might make it 
:)

Brian you are one of the two under the big wheel, but wich one ?

Carl needs a text guru to finish rich text editing. Anton?

Dide - look at picture name, you will decode it :-) But - BrianH 
is imo the guy similar a bit to the mixture of The Edward Scissorhands 
and Thec Cure singer Robert Smith :-)

Henrik - Anton or Gabriele. Gabriele did text handling for first 
VID prototype, and it was probably more complete, no? But of course, 
Anton is guru here :-)

Gabriele too, of course.

Pekr: thanks. Did not saw it ealier.

Don't forget Romano.

Anton, if he has time?

No, I mean, don't forget Romano's past contributions to early VID.

hmm... will that help anything?

I'm the mildly gothy one with the multicolored hair.

Yes, Brian, Good description !

Pekr one was not bad, especially regardings Robert Smith (but missing 
hair's color) :-)

I think Pekr doesn't see too many goths. I'm pretty conservative-looking 
by their standards :)

Pekr is right, when i saw Brian first, i thought, oh God i hope no 
one will give him a scissor...

I am really very happy and well adjusted, which weirds out my friends 
:)

he's already "cutting" our idea on R3 evolutions, so that he doesn't 
need to be more accurate

;-)

We are on the cutting edge :)

Oldes: Is there something new with Rebcode?


Nothing new, but your requesting it means that you don't remember 
the problems the old rebcode had.

The bad news:

- Rebcode didn't work in R2, it was unstable and frequently crashed 
REBOL, very pre-allpha.

- Carl is unlikely to make a build with rebcode because of the above, 
and because he is focusing on R3.

- R2-style rebcode would be slower in R3 relative to the speed of 
regular R3, partly due to changes in function word lookup.

- Any rebcode dialect for R3 would be incompatible with R2 rebcode 
on a basic semantic level.

The good news:

- R3 has features that will make it relatively easy to add our own 
rebcode-like dialect.

- Even though the R2 semantics wouldn't be good, there are more tricks 
we can do to get more speed.

- The main reason that we don't get as much of a relative speedup 
for R2-style rebcode in R3 is that R3 is faster itself.

BrianH - are you going to bring us Rebcode, JIT, or anything like 
that in the future for R3? :-)

Petr, read carefully... he is saying R3 is so much faster that you 
may not need it.

We will see. I'm not going to test it now as I don't have the latest 
R3 version. But I'm really looking forward to see the new R3 features.

R3 (at least publicly available versions) math is definitely not 
10x faster as rebcode was.

For math maybe we will be able to use C-ish plugins with R3

Maarten - you probably don't believe your own words, righ? Or are 
you going to write pixel manipulation in 'foreach or any other REBOL 
loop? :-)

I think R3 will be fast enough for all things you don't want to code 
in C

I'm looking forward to the reduce/into enhancement. In general we've 
had a lot of clever optimizations through better design, and I'm 
sure there are many more that can go in.

Small status update:

- CureCode is now the official bug tracker for R3.
- Clipboard now supports unicode. This took longer than expected.

- HTTP 1.1 has been degraded to 1.0 due to some problems with 1.1. 
Rebtalk will continue to work as always though. Maarten is looking 
into this.

- Carl is attacking font code (this does not involve altering the 
poor anti-aliasing unfortunately) and text handling, so text areas 
will finally grow up and act like real text areas. This makes Rebtalk 
usable for more than messages. :-)

- Also yesterday, code was added to allow cell based vertical and 
horizontal alignment of faces. It's interesting to see these changes 
in VID3.4: A new feature like this is rarely more than 5-10 lines 
of code, which is a sign of a great design.

- MAX-SIZE won't go away. Instead it might (I'm not sure Carl is 
convinced there is a problem) be split in two. It currently acts 
as both a pressure factor and maximum size for a face, which is the 
cause for most of its problems.

Pekr, making new execution engines for R3 is one of my goals, so 
yes.

Rebolek, math is not REBOL's strong suit, true. The speedup comes 
from other areas.

Maarten: I don't want to code anything in C :)

REBOL's syntax is bad for math - too verbose, too much required whitespace. 
We can do a better dialect than that.

Brian coul you give an example how  to  define a new execution engine 
in R3, i don't see the point