World: r3wp

when he can download a new public or other R3 Releases ?

if you mean he = we, then: unknown

Do the current R3 private releases have any sound capabilities?

no

REBOL never had any sound :-)

That's why I hear a "Ding!" everytime a new message comes into this 
world...  Cause REBOL can't play sounds!

REBOL 2 can play sounds, but I don't think you want to build a 32 
channel music tracker with it. :-)

exactly :-) Ask sound gurus as Rebolek for details :-) But - Carl 
is very open in this regard. R2 currently uses wave win32API, and 
there seem to be a bug (which we noticed when we tried to do a video 
playback). Carl released sources, which are rather short for sound 
module. Maybe it could be fixed a bit for next 2.x release, if there 
is going to be any ...

;-)  I knew it was limited but couldn't remember if it was actually 
just using some Windoze component or not.

Do the current R3 private releases have scroll-wheel support?

Yes

super ;-)

R3/View might get Unicode support till the end of January. I pushed 
Cyphre to release some info, but maybe he just wanted me to give 
him a break :-)

... so, this is not official RT's info ...

It seems that every GUI has a version of Apple's Coverflow these 
days. Flash, JavaScript, JavaFX, even WPF and Delphi. A R3 coverflow 
would be a much better application to test out the GUI than a colour 
selector and a forum client. It would be a great demonstration of 
R3's capabilities.

just a joke to try to generate a coverflow animation.
REBOL []
angle: 10
angle2: 0
decal: 0x0
rot: 0
scene: [
	transform angle 50x0 1 1 0x0
	pen red fill-pen red circle 70x0 2
	pen green fill-pen green circle 85x0 2
	pen yellow fill-pen yellow circle 100x0 2
]
scene2: [
	transform angle2 decal 1 1 0x0
	pen red fill-pen red circle rpair 2 
	pen green fill-pen green circle gpair 2
	pen yellow fill-pen yellow circle ypair 2
]
img: copy empty: make image! 100x50
logo: copy logo-empty: make image! 200x100
locate: func [color /local idx][
	idx: (index? find/skip rgb to binary! color 3) / 3
	as-pair idx  // img/size/x to integer! idx / img/size/x 
]
view/new l: layout [image img image logo]
rev: false
for i 10 170 5 [
	angle: i
	change img empty
	draw img scene	
	rgb: img/rgb
	gpair: locate green
	rpair: locate red 
	ypair: locate yellow 

	either all [gpair/x > 35 gpair/x < 65][
		rev: true
		angle2: angle2 - 15
		decal: gpair
		change img empty
		draw img scene2	
		rgb: img/rgb
		rpair: locate red 
		ypair: locate yellow 
	][if rev [pair: ypair ypair: rpair rpair: pair]]
	change logo logo-empty
	b1: as-pair rpair/x 25 - rpair/y
	b3: as-pair rpair/x 25 + rpair/y 
	b2: as-pair ypair/x 25 - ypair/y
	b4: as-pair ypair/x 25 + ypair/y 
	draw logo [pen red scale 2 2 image logo.gif b1 b3 b4 b2 border]
	show l
	;*** PUSH ENTER TO ADVANCE
	input
]
do-events

could be usefull to generate the optimal coordinates

I've done a basic coverflow layout--no slick animation or reflections 
(too slow under R2 when I tried it)--but fully keyboard and mouse 
driven. Animation could be done, but hasn't been needed yet.

--no slick animation or reflections (too slow under R2 when I tried 
it)--

That's why it would be such a good test of R3 GUI.

If it's plain DRAW, then it may not be much faster, but I'd be interested 
in seeing benchmarks.

any good hopes on getting a public release of R3 in dec/jan as I 
think Carl mentioned?

I'm not sure about december, but January might be possible, but this 
is definitely no guarantee.

. .

From DocBase:

RebDev is the REBOL development community messaging system.
More 
soon -Carl

Yes, he has found a powerful way to add a communications system to 
DevBase. From what I've learned the server is running, so I'm guessing 
he's writing the client.

Not only for the DevBase, as far as I understand his words :-) We 
will see, hopefully Carl releases some details soon ...

Same he didn't called it xxxBase to go with DevBase and DocBase.

all these names begins to be a little bit cryptic

ok i give a code to Carl to help him ;-)

>> random/seed now print append "" copy/part random [Reb Dev Base 
Doc Rrr Bel Bad Bbs Srv Clt] 2

It sounds like he is just rebuilding DevBase with the missing features 
that were intended to be added to it. Good!

happy christmass ;-)

Anyone know the timeline for the next Alpha?  I thought Carl made 
it sound like it would hit the streets before Christmas.

ahah, you believe in santa claus, Paul, post your request in the 
Belief system thread instead

Hehe no Santa for me.  I don't follow Christmas.  I consider it just 
another day but one that can go by another name.

Definitely not by Christmas. ETAs in this case are dangerous to publish. 
It depends on what else needs to be fixed.

I thought we could release too. Good thing is, that Carl thinks, 
that we need to get many more developers on-board, and so he is doing 
some preparation work to handle the load.

Anyone know if in R3 that op! will be treated as an op! in a block 
before evaluation?

be nice to do something like:

op? second [this + that ] 


and have it return true.  I know it is a word value now but I never 
understood why it was made word there.

>> type? first [+]
== word!

wow, found a crash :-)

First RebDev version was uploaded to our private world a few seconds 
ago.

The first screenshot of the CLI interface:

http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/174.png

Server is still running on R2 for reliability, but it was written 
in R3, so apparently it's compatible.

The client appears to be a bit over 20 kb of code and is fairly simple 
to use. Still some bugs left to solve, but moving quickly forward.

so all console driven ?

is it cgi or lns?

or direct tcp?

all console driven, yes. it appears to be plain HTTP as it runs off 
port 80.

If the RebDev serve runs on R2, how does it handle character encoding? 
Does it simply ue the default Windows codepage on the client machine?

I would not trust non-ascii characters for now. With any luck the 
server saves the messages as binary UTF-8, don't know yet.

The current client is console driven (old school BBS), but there 
will be many more clients.