World: r3wp
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Janko 5-Jan-2009 [9104x4] | haxe = nekovm (nekovm.org) |
The most elegant binding I have seen so far was done by Factor .. there you don't even have to "code" in a classical sense, you just define the interface and that's it ... as I said I am not very experienced in all this (I hacked factor's sqlite binding and to add another c function inthere I just added 1 line.) | |
this is a link to nekovm's FFI , pretty simple to use http://nekovm.org/doc/ffi | |
uh, R3 plan... I hope the public alpha will come out soon so I can also start playing with it | |
Graham 6-Jan-2009 [9108] | Rebdev only R3? Or can a R2 client be written? |
Henrik 6-Jan-2009 [9109] | Graham, Carl says an R2 client can be written, but is low priority. |
[unknown: 5] 6-Jan-2009 [9110] | Does anyone know if REBOL3 will include REBCODE functionality? If not, then it would be cool if we could DO rebcode from a REBOL3 script somehow. Such as DO %rebcode.bin to give us the functions of REBCODE to use in our scripts. |
Henrik 6-Jan-2009 [9111] | There is no rebcode in R3 as it would be a different challenge to put it in there than in R2. R2 also offered certain tricks that are not possible in R3, which would make rebcode run slower in R3. BrianH has explained this a few times (but I can never remember the exact explanation :-)). |
[unknown: 5] 6-Jan-2009 [9112x2] | Would be nice to just pass the arguments to a rebcode module and have it pass them back. Even giving rebcode networking features might enable that. |
Henrik, do you know if Carl would be up to building a rebcode based 2.7.6? | |
Henrik 6-Jan-2009 [9114] | Old BrianH quote: The new function binding model in R3 makes Rebcode not as fast in R3 as it was in R2, if it uses the same semantic model. In order to be worth including we would have to change the semantic model accordingly. |
[unknown: 5] 6-Jan-2009 [9115] | I could really benefit from having rebcode in 2.7.6 then. |
Henrik 6-Jan-2009 [9116] | Paul, I don't know. I don't think he wants to spend much time in 2009 on R2. The schedule for R3 is pretty long as it stands. |
[unknown: 5] 6-Jan-2009 [9117x2] | But I would think it would be somethign that he just drops in and compiles isn't it? |
He already has it in 2.6.x? | |
Henrik 6-Jan-2009 [9119] | I don't know that process, so I don't know. :-) |
[unknown: 5] 6-Jan-2009 [9120] | Maybe Brian can provide more insight. |
Henrik 6-Jan-2009 [9121x2] | That's a special build. Also rebcode was never really finished as there are security issues with it. |
(rebcode can easily crash REBOL if used wrong) | |
[unknown: 5] 6-Jan-2009 [9123] | I would use it if it were a separate process that I could access via networking port just to get to the computational advantages. |
Henrik 6-Jan-2009 [9124] | I think you can do that with the special builds. |
[unknown: 5] 6-Jan-2009 [9125x2] | You probably right I didn't think if would have networking or not. |
I'll look into that. | |
Henrik 6-Jan-2009 [9127] | it's a full REBOL/View build, so it should work |
[unknown: 5] 6-Jan-2009 [9128x3] | ahh ok. |
I knew that also but wasn't thinking. | |
Thanks Henrik. | |
Graham 6-Jan-2009 [9131x2] | Is tcp/ip going to be primarily async in R3? Or will there be synchronous protocols also written? |
for http, pop, smtp etc ? | |
Henrik 7-Jan-2009 [9133x2] | I think that TCP/IP is pure async and HTTP also, but functions like READ would work in a synchronous manner. |
On another note, a new R3 internal release was made a few hours ago with all of BrianH's changes submitted to DevBase. Yay! | |
Pekr 7-Jan-2009 [9135x2] | ... yes, and it seems to me we are aproaching the release .... slowly but surely .... http://www.rebol.net/wiki/R3_Alpha |
Still work in progress, but good sign of things happening ... so hopefully, in one month, there will be load of devs cooperating on R3 development ... | |
Steeve 7-Jan-2009 [9137x2] | yeah... something is comming... |
not now plz, i have to go bed... | |
Pekr 7-Jan-2009 [9139x3] | you can watch internal releases here - http://www.rebol.net/wiki/R3_Releases |
:-) | |
don't expect it being out this week ... you can safely go to sleep :-) | |
Steeve 7-Jan-2009 [9142x4] | i saw them early |
i check docbase several times per day ;-) | |
but...but... to nite there's something strange in the air... | |
anyway, i take the risk, i go to to sleep, nite. | |
Nicolas 7-Jan-2009 [9146] | You fools! Rebol 3 will never be released! This has all been elaborate conspiracy! Hahahaha! |
Chris 7-Jan-2009 [9147] | Petr (from Ports): http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Port_Implementation http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Ports http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Port_Examples(a good one ....) http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0127.html"Pruning down Read and Write" http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0128.html"Skip and Seek on ports" http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0129.html- async http transfer using tcp http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0130.html"More about port layers" (continuation of Pruning down Read and Write article) |
Mchean 7-Jan-2009 [9148] | thanks chris for the references |
BrianH 7-Jan-2009 [9149] | It's funny, the more mezzanine code I write for R3, the more errors I find in R2. There are some pretty significant design flaws in R2. |
btiffin 7-Jan-2009 [9150] | Shhh. ;) |
Maxim 7-Jan-2009 [9151] | R2 is JUST LIKE ALTME !!!! ITS PERFECT !!! STOP SPREADING LIES !!!! ;-) |
[unknown: 5] 7-Jan-2009 [9152x2] | LOL |
BrianH, I assume you not going to share those flaws? | |
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