World: r3wp

How are people coping with Carl's chat client ?

Seems hard for us oldies with only bare text to work with .. no graphical 
clues

It would help with a better console. I've also proposed to adopt 
a traditional LS/DIR, CD .. command set. I think that would click 
much easier for us.

Luckily Jerry is not posting in Chinese yet!

Yeah ... I keep wanting to type cd, ls etc

yes, same here.

and cat

btiffin also finds the behavior of H to be wrong and I agree. It 
will quickly degrade into huge lists. Just imagine 20 more users.

If you're going to look like a console, at least let's use console 
familiar tool names

yes, I agree.

Anyway it's too much cognitive loading for me!

Is the server code available?

I love the speed of typing numbers. I don't want that to go away.

not yet.

btw, I've mentioned it before, but try to run rebdev in multiple 
consoles. much more powerful.

I saw you post that ...

all in the same directory?

meaning?

each console accesses the same data files?

msg-db.r etc

yes, they do. I don't think that's harmful. I haven't noticed any 
discrepancies.

probably because you're only in one console at a time!

For a GUI version to do this, one could open N windows in the same 
RebDev script. I would love to see that.

is there a http or gui client ?

do we have to trace the http to figure out what's going on?

no GUI client, only read-only mobile client.

I agree with btiifin, that 'tags for numbers would be nice. It would 
be nice to have e.g. R3 heading tagged as R3, and refer to it as 
R3 instead of the need to remember the number. I think that once 
GUI is available, this point will be moot. But I agree to provide 
some directory navigation like functionality.

So far it still esapes me, how such system is going to be usefull, 
if not linked to CureCode comments (BrianH proposed something here), 
not linked to DevBase, etc.

there is "b" to go up

'b as 'back. I wanted .., or cd .. :-)

sure ...

Well, it all seems pretty primitive at present

Pekr, we are not yet using bots or tags. Bots will be extremely powerful.

I have to spend more time not less to see what's new...

A GUI client will certainly help usability, but since we have console, 
we can use it over SSH and that's a great thing.

Hi. Henrik, thanks for your answer on Carl's blog.

kib2, it's unfortunate there is confusion. releasing software should 
be simple, but it's not.

Can we use it via SSH? Hmm, interesting ....

SSH ??

Well, it is more flexible than Altme and Carl wanted to be some prototype 
start of new Altme. It has real threading, tagging, ranking, private 
messaging, is spriptable. So good so far. But - we also need read-only 
groups, private groups, or other app schema over it.

pekr, when we get an R3 for real operating systems, of course.

So, I use my cellphone to ssh to another box so that I can then run 
the chat??

Graham, yes, just like you can SSH to a linux box and use Rebol/Core 
through that already now.

for sure! Just a newbie question: as I've to wait for R3, is there 
a way to have a descent font rendering on Windows (antialiased) ? 
Ugly courier fonts really annoying for working/ reading AltMe messages.

Gabriele - read my comment above, please. Those 3 namead are prominent 
App servers, not webservers. Your team should really think to implement 
some file options ...

ah, wrong group ... sorry ..

kib2, not for AltME. REBOL/View (which AltME is based on) is hardwired 
to non-antialiased fonts in its View engine.

Henrik : so I really have to wait for R3!

kib2, yes and I hate to say it again, but: R3 also solves this problem. 
:-) It's quite amazing how many times I've said that now.

Graham, the console client is also because Carl uses SSH quite a 
lot in different locations, which is why he started with a console 
client instead of a GUI one.