World: r3wp
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Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9582] | there is "b" to go up |
Pekr 15-Jan-2009 [9583] | 'b as 'back. I wanted .., or cd .. :-) |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9584x2] | sure ... |
Well, it all seems pretty primitive at present | |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9586] | Pekr, we are not yet using bots or tags. Bots will be extremely powerful. |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9587] | I have to spend more time not less to see what's new... |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9588] | A GUI client will certainly help usability, but since we have console, we can use it over SSH and that's a great thing. |
kib2 15-Jan-2009 [9589] | Hi. Henrik, thanks for your answer on Carl's blog. |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9590] | kib2, it's unfortunate there is confusion. releasing software should be simple, but it's not. |
Pekr 15-Jan-2009 [9591] | Can we use it via SSH? Hmm, interesting .... |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9592] | SSH ?? |
Pekr 15-Jan-2009 [9593] | Well, it is more flexible than Altme and Carl wanted to be some prototype start of new Altme. It has real threading, tagging, ranking, private messaging, is spriptable. So good so far. But - we also need read-only groups, private groups, or other app schema over it. |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9594] | pekr, when we get an R3 for real operating systems, of course. |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9595] | So, I use my cellphone to ssh to another box so that I can then run the chat?? |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9596] | Graham, yes, just like you can SSH to a linux box and use Rebol/Core through that already now. |
kib2 15-Jan-2009 [9597] | for sure! Just a newbie question: as I've to wait for R3, is there a way to have a descent font rendering on Windows (antialiased) ? Ugly courier fonts really annoying for working/ reading AltMe messages. |
Pekr 15-Jan-2009 [9598x2] | Gabriele - read my comment above, please. Those 3 namead are prominent App servers, not webservers. Your team should really think to implement some file options ... |
ah, wrong group ... sorry .. | |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9600] | kib2, not for AltME. REBOL/View (which AltME is based on) is hardwired to non-antialiased fonts in its View engine. |
kib2 15-Jan-2009 [9601] | Henrik : so I really have to wait for R3! |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9602x2] | kib2, yes and I hate to say it again, but: R3 also solves this problem. :-) It's quite amazing how many times I've said that now. |
Graham, the console client is also because Carl uses SSH quite a lot in different locations, which is why he started with a console client instead of a GUI one. | |
kib2 15-Jan-2009 [9604] | This is really cruel...waiting for something that may never come! |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9605x4] | If you die tonight ... well, everything will never come. |
don't sweat over things you have no control over! | |
So, is Carl going to prevent developments that will eventually render this type of chat unusable in a console? | |
like attachments, formatted code, or color syntax coding etc | |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9609] | That's an interesting question. Perhaps you should ask that in RebDev. :-) |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9610] | Just wondering how this will all scale over different devices and media |
kib2 15-Jan-2009 [9611] | bad joke, but R3 it's like Perl 6 for me. |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9612] | I don't want to be a negative influence :) |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9613] | Graham, I think that if the message format is going to get more complex, there would still be ways to parse it for console use. |
Pekr 15-Jan-2009 [9614x2] | kib2: why? Perl 6 is in development two times the R3. And one year ago there was a public alpha. Soon enough there will be another one. This time with final GUI architecture (although not complete yet) |
Henrik - is rebdev usable from R2? It has much better console. Windows one sucks, I can't set it wider easily ... | |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9616x2] | kib2, I know, but as I can see now, making a programming language is no picnic. This is the first time I've witnessed it close up. There is still a long way to go. |
pekr, no, r2 console version is low priority. Carl wants to do R3 GUI version next. | |
Pekr 15-Jan-2009 [9618] | good to know GUI is next. It will help to further improve GUI ... |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9619] | html version should be next ... |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9620] | Graham, that would delay the GUI. |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9621] | ok, concurrent then :) |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9622x2] | The only way to truly speed up development would be to clone Carl. |
So Carl1 could focus on rebdev, Carl2 could focus on tasks and Carl3 could focus on modules. Carl4 would work on the GUI and ReBrowser. | |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9624x2] | just give us more docs and we can do this |
that's really the point of collaboration | |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9626] | But can we provide stuff of high enough quality for him? That's the issue. |
kib2 15-Jan-2009 [9627] | Pekr: I wasn't aware of the GUI stuff. |
Graham 15-Jan-2009 [9628] | if that's an issue .. then he should close off all collaboration. |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9629] | It is _the_ issue. Carl trusts no one unless you can work at his level. And that is also why the quality of R3 alpha feels like everyone elses release versions. :-) |
PeterWood 15-Jan-2009 [9630] | Where should I report DevBase bugs? |
Henrik 15-Jan-2009 [9631] | I suppose the best place for now is CureCode. |
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