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[Postscript] Emitting Postscript from REBOL
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Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1370] | Are there anything special, you need in postscript.r? |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1371x3] | I was afraid of messing with it, since only a single error, such as leaving a standard postscript command out or putting another one in, caused some printers to stop working with it. |
There is a bug with printing multiple pages on certain HP printers. After the first page, some char is missing, that causes it to wait until you press the Online button or page feed button. I really would like that to be fixed. The work-around is to print to a file and have it printed using Printfile under Windows. | |
And I also badly need bitmap support :-) | |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1374] | Ok, I try to stick to the standard and keep things simple. |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1375] | well, I tried standard commands, but it seems that printers and postscript is like HTML and webbrowsers, unfortunately. |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1376] | damn |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1377] | it would be wise to look at demo postscript files from around the net and see what they do. try to print them on various printers. |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1378] | When you had problem, did you try changing the %%Pages and %%Page lines in the ps-doc? |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1379] | had very limited time to test and don't remember |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1380] | ok |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1381x2] | it was a panic situation .:-) |
furthermore, when printing with LP under OSX, produces different margins and scales than LP under Linux. so that's fun. | |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1383x2] | Added PageSize and images to the PostScript dialect. There seem to be a problem with jpg!? Henrik, try this: do http://home.tiscali.dk/john.niclasen/postscript/postscript.r write %imagetest.ps postscript [page [translate 100 600 scale 72 72 image logo.gif translate 100 500 scale 144 144 image logo.gif translate 100 300 scale 288 288 image logo.gif]] Then view or print the file imagetest.ps |
This gives a result, that I can't view on my Mac for some reason: write %imagetest.ps postscript [page [translate 100 400 scale 72 72 image http://www.rebol.com/view/palms.jpg]] Any suggestions? | |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1385x4] | preview.app is unfortunately also half demented :-( |
ghostscript is better to reference against | |
and I can't test right now as I don't have the printer set up | |
I will test as soon as possible | |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1389] | I have problem viewing the test with jpg here. It can't convert it to a viewing format (prob. PDF). Can you test the ghostscript viewer? |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1390] | will take 30 mins to set up. hang on. |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1391] | Documentation is here: http://home.tiscali.dk/john.niclasen/postscript/postscript.html |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1392] | any image formats that you've tested that works? |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1393] | gif and bmp |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1394] | so it converts it to image! before feeding it to postscript dialect? |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1395] | Hm, maybe it has something to do with the size of the image. I saved logo.gif as %logo.bmp and it works. If I save that palms.jpg as %palms.bmp, it doesn't work. |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1396] | afk, 30 mins |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1397x2] | Yes, images are handled as REBOL image! types. If the dialect is given a file! or url!, it'll load the image. It can also take a word!, which is the image. It then convert the image/rgb to base-16 and put it in the ps-file. |
So images in postscript files take up a lot of space! Most people knows this already. I tried to put a 100k png image in a postscript file, and it then was > 11MB. | |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1399x2] | wow |
what about 2-colored GIFs? | |
Graham 23-Feb-2008 [1401] | I"ve always converted images to eps before including them. Never used raw image data. |
BrianH 23-Feb-2008 [1402] | That will work with vector images, but not necessarily pictures - EPS would have the same problems as Postscript. |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1403] | AFAIK, EPS is PS without page handling information |
Graham 23-Feb-2008 [1404x2] | Yes. I use things like imagemagick to do the conversion for me from binary image ( whatever format ) to eps. |
But if the image is big, it remains big ... not that it's a problem because it's being dumped to a printer. | |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1406] | it's a problem for speed, but perhaps there really is no way around it |
Graham 23-Feb-2008 [1407] | exactly because postscript can not handle gif, tiff, png, jpeg etc. |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1408] | but I was wondering if it accepts some kind of 2 or 4 bit format for smaller data sizes. the images I need to use are usually of low color. |
Graham 23-Feb-2008 [1409] | whereas LaTeX can use jpeg. |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1410] | well, LaTeX is converted to postscript, so maybe the end result is the same. |
Graham 23-Feb-2008 [1411] | Here's an article on coverting a jpeg to image using postscript functions http://www.tinaja.com/glib/jpg2pdf.pdf |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1412x2] | This with large printfiles, it's the same, that happens, if you print text using a font, that the printer doesn't know. Everything is converted to image data, and one page can be several MB. |
The image problem seems to be related to size. I tried to make a little image entirely in REBOL, and I can see that. Making a larger image, and Preview under OSX can't convert it to PDF. I would like to know, if my example above with palms.jpg can be printed on paper. | |
BrianH 23-Feb-2008 [1414] | If the image is 11mb, the printer would need more memory than that to print it, assuming the Postscript has no logic bugs that would prevent the printer from rendering the image at all. |
Geomol 23-Feb-2008 [1415] | I have problem with an image like in this example: do http://home.tiscali.dk/john.niclasen/postscript/postscript.r img: to-image layout [box 20x20 red box blue] write %imagetest.ps postscript [page [translate 100 400 scale 72 72 image img]] Try print (or view) the imagetest.ps file. Do you also get an error? |
Henrik 23-Feb-2008 [1416x3] | ERROR: /rangecheckESP Ghostscript 815.04: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 in --string-- Operand stack: picstr 70560 Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:1125/1686(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:108/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local |
That's what I get | |
Geomol, I wonder if GS can output it's stacks for debugging purposes. would that be useful to you? | |
Graham 23-Feb-2008 [1419] | Since postscript is a printer language, it can print the stacks if it encounters an error. |
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