World: r3wp
[Postscript] Emitting Postscript from REBOL
older newer | first last |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [415] | New version of postscript.r uploaded! I've add the prolog %! and epilog %%EOF as Graham suggested. I also wrapped paths in the postscripts commands gsave and grestore, so transformations give less trouble. Try this: do http://home.tiscali.dk/john.niclasen/postscript/postscript.r write %test.ps postscript load http://home.tiscali.dk/john.niclasen/postscript/test.txt You now have a postscript file "test.ps" produced by the dialect. It's content looks like this: http://home.tiscali.dk/john.niclasen/postscript/test.png To see, how using the dialect look in use, see the "test.txt" file. |
Henrik 13-Apr-2006 [416] | I'm building EAN13 barcode support for PS now. not very hard |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [417x3] | The output postscript file from the dialect can be sent to a postscript printer, so no driver is needed. |
Great, Henrik! | |
The dialect is just a version 0.2.3, so it can be better! | |
Henrik 13-Apr-2006 [420] | now I'm imagining: this is really lowlevel stuff, but I think it would be neat to build standardized higher level primitives. a barcode is such a primitive. barcharts, 3D views and complex symbols could be other types of primitives. just brainstorming... |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [421] | Yes, good ideas! It's not the meaning, that people should write in the postscript dialect directly. Building higher level dialects and primitives/applications on top of the dialect is the way to go. |
Henrik 13-Apr-2006 [422] | but it should also be consistent. a dialect with primitives? a library? |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [423] | The postscript dialect is just there to make printing easier, as was your intension with making this group. |
Henrik 13-Apr-2006 [424] | that's true... maybe it would be better to approach it through DRAW and let postscript.r do the dirty work |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [425x2] | Developer libraries and standards are good! It's been a big part of my job the last 15 years or so making programming libraries for developers. If I could make money developing REBOL standards and programming libraries, I would use more time on it. |
I'm sometimes thinking about, if REBOL developers are willing to invest in programming libraries. Maybe there are too few? | |
Henrik 13-Apr-2006 [427x2] | I think there are too few, then again, more might come if there was a consistent set of libraries. more than the current collection of scripts on rebol.org anyway |
I think this was the idea of the Rebol Powerpack? | |
Maxim 13-Apr-2006 [429x2] | and slim. |
and steel. | |
Henrik 13-Apr-2006 [431] | geomol, I don't know if you've seen this link: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/gripes.htm |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [432x2] | No, didn't know that one. Good to stick to the rules, thanks! |
Let's see ... what is needed more in the dialect, before a DRAW -> PostScript converter can be made? Images! Something else? | |
Henrik 13-Apr-2006 [434x2] | curves? |
fills? | |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [436x4] | haha, you're faster than me. I was just going to say curves. |
How fills? You can fill a box with boxfill. | |
We also miss circle. | |
and clipping ... argh, tough one, me thinks. | |
Henrik 13-Apr-2006 [440x2] | arcs |
is there any typography handling? | |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [442x7] | Not in DRAW, I think. |
Maybe you mean gradient fills? | |
Need those too. | |
and matrix | |
line-pattern | |
And Gouraud shaded triangle (if anyone uses those). | |
Hmm still some work to do. | |
Graham 13-Apr-2006 [449x5] | this produces the same output ( pdf anyway ) as John's script |
http://www.compkarori.com/reb/ps.r | |
I was just having a play as well with the postscript dialect. | |
this is the source file which looks a little different | |
test: form ps [ font Times-Roman 40 linewidth 0 at 72x720 "REBOL PostScript Dialect" at 72x716 line 520x716 font Times-Roman 16 at 96x680 "With this dialect it's possible to easily produce PostScript output." font Courier 24 at 96x600 "You can use different fonts." font Times-Roman 16 gsave at 120x550 rotate -30 "Make" grestore gsave at 160x450 rotate 30 scale 2 4 "transformations" grestore at 96x400 "And do graphics:" at 100x320 box 200x40 stroke gsave at 180x240 rotate 20 setgray .6 box 100x80 fill grestore at 150x250 line 200x290 180x305 194x340 font Helvetica-Oblique 12 at 72x72 "Postscript is copyright Adobe." ] | |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [454] | Good work! And a very fine alternative. This is the time to deside, how the dialect should be formed. Situation is, I had no experience with PostScript before starting this dialect, so I have no feeling about, how the dialect should look. If only there were an SGML definition for PostScript, but the closest we come to some rules is the DSC (Document Structure Conventions). |
Graham 13-Apr-2006 [455x2] | Me too! |
But I think we should strive to remove all brackets [ .. ] from the dialect. | |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [457] | Maybe we can take a look at some examples of real PS output from different apps? |
Graham 13-Apr-2006 [458x2] | Do we need to do that? |
As long as we can satisfy out aims of text on paper, and some graphics ... | |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [460] | The idea with the brackets come from the term "path" in PS. I had the feeling, that paths could hold lots of content. Maybe looking at other PS output can tell us something about that? |
Graham 13-Apr-2006 [461] | Ahh.. |
Geomol 13-Apr-2006 [462] | If we end up with lots of paths in our PS files, other might say, we produce bloath PS. |
Graham 13-Apr-2006 [463x2] | my output file is a little shorter than yours, but only because I didn't bother creating the prolog / epilog |
I think to create those should be a refinement. | |
older newer | first last |