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[Plugin-2] Browser Plugins

james_nak
16-Jun-2006
[1227]
Josh, would you be open to providing files so I can manually install 
and verify that it works once loaded.
BrianH
16-Jun-2006
[1228x4]
Is the plugin served from an HTTPS site? It would be nice to avoid 
man-in-the-middle attacks. I'm always a little wary of putting non-SSL 
sites on the trusted sites list.


For that matter, when you have one site serving the html and script, 
and another serving the plugin, which site needs to be trusted, as 
far as the major browsers are concerned? I would think just the plugin 
serving site, but I don't quite remember right now...
My main desktop system is running Windows Server 2003 with the browser 
security settings enabled. It prohibits any ActiveX controls from 
running in IE at all unless they come from sites on the trusted list. 
It won't even give you the option unless you turn off the browser 
security.
Needless to say, this makes me much more comfortable with using IE, 
but it isn't really practical. So I use Firefox.
However, it does render IE safe enough to browse shady sites.
Graham
16-Jun-2006
[1232x4]
Well, that was painless.
My chat program still works...
Hmm.  Illegal operation in plugin.
only in firefox and not IE.
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1236]
And enable javascript in ff .. (was stupid enough to forget that. 
thenno auto-install)
Allen
16-Jun-2006
[1237]
Brian. Mashups (as I'm referring to) is the common term for webapps 
that utilise numerous webservices and combined in the browsers. But 
I hope you can come up with a security method that allows us to utilise 
advertising, google adwords-api, flickr, amazon-api, numerous maps, 
calendars. etc ; without having to combine on a single server before 
it goes out to the clients rebol plugin. I can do all this now in 
a browser, but I won't be able to with a rebol-plugin?
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1238x2]
How would you check for a mashup?
Instead of somebody making your machine a proxy?
Allen
16-Jun-2006
[1240]
security vs useful ... I know it's a tough call. Just pointing out 
how some of the multi-services from different domains is so common 
now. (just disable 3rd party cookies in your browser to see how many 
warning message you get)
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1241x3]
Btw does that mean a page from the web can access my local test-webserver?
there is a lot of usefull without mashup.
And there is mashup with signed scripts.
Allen
16-Jun-2006
[1244]
simple question. Will a plugin be allowed to read data [get, post, 
or soap] from a website other than the one that the script came from?
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1245x3]
Uhm, and there is do-browser?
I hope it will not. Or i must firewall my testserver..
against my development box where i browse too..
Allen
16-Jun-2006
[1248]
Well if I can still do-browser, then I'm not understanding what the 
domain sandbox will do.
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1249]
Thats what i am thinking at the moment too..
Allen
16-Jun-2006
[1250]
so obviously I'm arguing for something I will still be able to do. 
so I'm fine
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1251]
But more in the "can i restrict that"-direction. Does do-browser 
respect blocked javascript?
Allen
16-Jun-2006
[1252]
read-via-browser might be a better method, seemless do the javascript 
http object without having to expose the javascript required to the 
rebol user, but will it will then pickup the browser security settings 
on such things
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1253]
Maybe a good compromise. Full speed rebol-network restricted or signed, 
and more relaxed thru javascript, where the user knows allready how 
to deal withit (more or less)
Allen
16-Jun-2006
[1254]
yep. Brian is that what you're thinking?
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1255x2]
Do timers have problems?
i mean 'wait with timers.
PhilB
16-Jun-2006
[1257]
How do you add rebol.com to your list of approved software installation 
web sites in Firefox?
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1258x2]
is explained on the install-page
http://www.rebol.com/plugin/install.html
PhilB
16-Jun-2006
[1260]
Where ? The Mozzilla section just talks about downloading a zip file 
and & copying to the plugins folder ....
Volker
16-Jun-2006
[1261x3]
Here are the steps for FireFox 1.5:

   1. Click Tools->Options
   2. Click "Content"

   3. Click "Exceptions" next to "Warn me when web sites try to install 
   extensions or themes"
   4. Type "rebol.com"
   5. Press "Allow"
   6. Press "Close", then "OK" to close the Options window.
Could use anextra <p>
Maybe a cache-problem?
PhilB
16-Jun-2006
[1264]
Yes ... this looks like the page hasnt changed since I last visited 
it ... .thanks
Brock
16-Jun-2006
[1265x7]
Hmm, WinXP Pro, install for IE worked fine, install for FF seemed 
to work fine as the Red/Blue box was displayed, but clicking on the 
test.html link in the developer guide brings up the HTML without 
the TestPanel application.
and yes, I did the uninstall first.
A similar thing happend to me on my Win2k Pro laptop for work, I 
initially installed the plugin in FF, then tried IE.  FF worked like 
a charm, however IE presented the same scenario as listed above for 
FF, dowload words, image is displayed, even saw the test page, but 
a very simple Rebol app worked in FF, but not in IE.
Anyone else able to get the plugin installed properly in more than 
one browser?
I'm going to try my work laptop now (er, after the 3 minute boot)
Hmm, the Win2K laptop didn't get either installed.  FF plugin is 
bailing on the .xpt file... it's never getting installed it appears.
No idea why the IE plugin didn't work on the win2k laptop.  Does 
it matter if I don't have FF installed in %programfiles%.  I have 
installed many of my apps on my D: drive, however, did not reassing 
this system variable to my D:\.
Graham
16-Jun-2006
[1272x2]
It would be better to have a more obvious test/image to show that 
the installation works than some text with a shifting coloured background
hmm.. I can't get http://www.compkarori.com/reb/working on firefox
Anton
17-Jun-2006
[1274]
Great news !
Volker
17-Jun-2006
[1275x2]
works in both browsers, with app.
.. own app..