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[Plugin-2] Browser Plugins

Rebolek
18-May-2007
[1929]
it's http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rbox2/
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1930x2]
ech.. yes
and it's probably know problem, that Rebol plugin is not using browsers 
proxy settings
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1932x2]
hey, this little game works for me here ...
I did not expect it ... so we don't have proxy here ... hmm ... the 
proxy problem is a pity, because other than that, we could already 
use plug-in ...
Rebolek
18-May-2007
[1934]
Pekr are you also able to post score online?
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1935x4]
maybe I could connect it with my chat server:]
and have multiplayer rooms... but... still waiting for R3 first
anyway it's quite interesting that I can drag the window across all 
the web space... this is not possible with Flash (without JS calls)...
there is just a problem that if I drag the window outside, there 
is no chance to get i back... only reload:)
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1939x3]
I just tried, yes, it works ...
heh, the window drag - interesting consequence :-)
It is REAL pity proxy problem was not fixed. It was so annoying show 
stopper, that we could be light-years ahead. Stupid decision to postpone 
that single fix.
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1942x2]
I thing that bigger problem is, that you can run only one instance
ech.. so the dragging is not working in Opera... never mind... it 
was not mentioned to be used inside browsers
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1944]
that might be initial problem, but still better to run one of them, 
than none ....
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1945]
I'm using at least one plugin script all the time
Rebolek
18-May-2007
[1946]
this will be adressed in r3 according to carl's speech
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1947x2]
the plugin itself has nothing in common with rebol - it is just a 
wrapper, and latest incarnation of plug-in was able to handle multiple 
instances.
the development was stalled because of security concerns, and Josh 
was working on some document, which he was supposed to have "out 
really soon". Then he announced that Carl set him another goal. I 
think noone is working on plug-in part recently.
Rebolek
18-May-2007
[1949]
actually as I understood that, the plugin part will be open source, 
so I'm not sure, if it's going to be done by RT themselves
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1950x2]
I hope plug-in wrapper is open-source too. Tighter securite is something 
I agree with (after long discussion of Anton and Brian I believe 
it is a necessity). The idea was to limit amount of plug-in writeable 
data to disc, amount of max windows opened, etc., and to have certificates 
based aproach. You would buy certifikace and hence could develop 
full fledged apps with SDK.
what I can see a problem still, is, rebol "windowing". We use dialog 
box aproach. If I have window embedded in plug-in, and want to raise 
requester e.g., it will pop-up, and hece could be blocked. That is 
why I suggested, that maybe VID+ should think of native rebol windowing 
... not sure what others think about it ...
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1952]
I think this is not blocked http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/plugin/test-request-file.html
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1953]
well, its system dialog box ... try rebol based one? Maybe there 
would be no trouble, dunno .... you would also have to check with 
adblock
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1954]
But I'm sure, that the Rebol security requestor cannot be worst, 
as most of the file paths it's asking to allow are not visible (if 
they are not in root)
Maxim
18-May-2007
[1955]
I really think the current plugin has its uses, its very cool to 
have an unrestricted plugin for some applications.  but a more protected 
environment would be much easier to disseminate at large.
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1956]
it could be at least used to present rebol view capabilities ... 
docs could be hidden, untill there is new version out with proper 
security ...
Maxim
18-May-2007
[1957x3]
we need the docs back on line!!!!
I wanted to make an elixir in browser, put now, I can't!
just to make it easier to show-off to non-rebolers
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1960]
Pekr.. good thing is, that I was able for the first time install 
the FF and Opera version without problem
Maxim
18-May-2007
[1961]
imagine people's eyes when they will see they can have two browers 
speaking to each other without the need for a server!
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1962]
:-)
Maxim
18-May-2007
[1963x3]
yes its actually installs with no hassels (almost)
in IE the install is flawless... on FF you have to know about "allowing" 
install, and usually that's not obvious for the non-techie.
but it works, when you understand the concept, and just ask for install 
after having allowed it.
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1966]
I§m sure plugin is very important as it will be much more esier to 
get Rebol on client side than on servers... all the PHP server admins 
are too lazy to allow something new
Maxim
18-Jun-2007
[1967]
hi guys, I can't find ANY example of calling javascript within the 
plugin !    can any one just give an example where I get some values 
from the DOM (I'd like to retrive the current URL from which the 
plugin was called, so I can talk to the server... a tool I built 
needs to be setup for each site... (without changing the code... 
its compressed.)
Henrik
18-Jun-2007
[1968x2]
maxim, I made this a long time ago, shortly after the first plugin 
came out:

http://hmkdesign.dk/dom/curvyclean.html

http://hmkdesign.dk/dom/<-- all files can be seen here
nothing is finished, but you can at least see some DOM calls somewhere 
in there :-)
Maxim
18-Jun-2007
[1970x3]
thanks  : -)
a ha... do-browser  :-)
henrik, I don't seem to be able to retrieve values from javascript... 
how do I get values FROM do-brower .... do you know?
Henrik
18-Jun-2007
[1973]
hmm... I'm not sure about that. I don't think I got that far.
Maxim
18-Jun-2007
[1974x2]
a ha... just figured it out... simply put the variable as the last 
thing in the script:

rebol []




view layout [ button "test" [view/new layout compose [vtext (do-browser 
{var url = document.location.href; url})]]]
the above will show a small page which has a button... click on it 
and the current URL is poped up in a new window  :-)

yippee!
Henrik
18-Jun-2007
[1976]
yes, javascript is quite amazing
Chris
18-Jun-2007
[1977]
I think this is for an older version of the plugin: http://www.ross-gill.com/r/tile-test/
 Need to look into bringing it up to date...
amacleod
7-Apr-2008
[1978]
I was playing around with some of the Demos for the plugin. They 
were working fine and then I got hte request to download the active-x 
component. I downloadred thing perhaps I had an older version installed 
but now the plugin is not working. I get a REBOL/VIEWdll window with 
"Show on face in closed window." printed inside. Anyone?