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[Plugin-2] Browser Plugins

Pekr
18-May-2007
[1941]
It is REAL pity proxy problem was not fixed. It was so annoying show 
stopper, that we could be light-years ahead. Stupid decision to postpone 
that single fix.
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1942x2]
I thing that bigger problem is, that you can run only one instance
ech.. so the dragging is not working in Opera... never mind... it 
was not mentioned to be used inside browsers
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1944]
that might be initial problem, but still better to run one of them, 
than none ....
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1945]
I'm using at least one plugin script all the time
Rebolek
18-May-2007
[1946]
this will be adressed in r3 according to carl's speech
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1947x2]
the plugin itself has nothing in common with rebol - it is just a 
wrapper, and latest incarnation of plug-in was able to handle multiple 
instances.
the development was stalled because of security concerns, and Josh 
was working on some document, which he was supposed to have "out 
really soon". Then he announced that Carl set him another goal. I 
think noone is working on plug-in part recently.
Rebolek
18-May-2007
[1949]
actually as I understood that, the plugin part will be open source, 
so I'm not sure, if it's going to be done by RT themselves
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1950x2]
I hope plug-in wrapper is open-source too. Tighter securite is something 
I agree with (after long discussion of Anton and Brian I believe 
it is a necessity). The idea was to limit amount of plug-in writeable 
data to disc, amount of max windows opened, etc., and to have certificates 
based aproach. You would buy certifikace and hence could develop 
full fledged apps with SDK.
what I can see a problem still, is, rebol "windowing". We use dialog 
box aproach. If I have window embedded in plug-in, and want to raise 
requester e.g., it will pop-up, and hece could be blocked. That is 
why I suggested, that maybe VID+ should think of native rebol windowing 
... not sure what others think about it ...
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1952]
I think this is not blocked http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/plugin/test-request-file.html
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1953]
well, its system dialog box ... try rebol based one? Maybe there 
would be no trouble, dunno .... you would also have to check with 
adblock
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1954]
But I'm sure, that the Rebol security requestor cannot be worst, 
as most of the file paths it's asking to allow are not visible (if 
they are not in root)
Maxim
18-May-2007
[1955]
I really think the current plugin has its uses, its very cool to 
have an unrestricted plugin for some applications.  but a more protected 
environment would be much easier to disseminate at large.
Pekr
18-May-2007
[1956]
it could be at least used to present rebol view capabilities ... 
docs could be hidden, untill there is new version out with proper 
security ...
Maxim
18-May-2007
[1957x3]
we need the docs back on line!!!!
I wanted to make an elixir in browser, put now, I can't!
just to make it easier to show-off to non-rebolers
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1960]
Pekr.. good thing is, that I was able for the first time install 
the FF and Opera version without problem
Maxim
18-May-2007
[1961]
imagine people's eyes when they will see they can have two browers 
speaking to each other without the need for a server!
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1962]
:-)
Maxim
18-May-2007
[1963x3]
yes its actually installs with no hassels (almost)
in IE the install is flawless... on FF you have to know about "allowing" 
install, and usually that's not obvious for the non-techie.
but it works, when you understand the concept, and just ask for install 
after having allowed it.
Oldes
18-May-2007
[1966]
I§m sure plugin is very important as it will be much more esier to 
get Rebol on client side than on servers... all the PHP server admins 
are too lazy to allow something new
Maxim
18-Jun-2007
[1967]
hi guys, I can't find ANY example of calling javascript within the 
plugin !    can any one just give an example where I get some values 
from the DOM (I'd like to retrive the current URL from which the 
plugin was called, so I can talk to the server... a tool I built 
needs to be setup for each site... (without changing the code... 
its compressed.)
Henrik
18-Jun-2007
[1968x2]
maxim, I made this a long time ago, shortly after the first plugin 
came out:

http://hmkdesign.dk/dom/curvyclean.html

http://hmkdesign.dk/dom/<-- all files can be seen here
nothing is finished, but you can at least see some DOM calls somewhere 
in there :-)
Maxim
18-Jun-2007
[1970x3]
thanks  : -)
a ha... do-browser  :-)
henrik, I don't seem to be able to retrieve values from javascript... 
how do I get values FROM do-brower .... do you know?
Henrik
18-Jun-2007
[1973]
hmm... I'm not sure about that. I don't think I got that far.
Maxim
18-Jun-2007
[1974x2]
a ha... just figured it out... simply put the variable as the last 
thing in the script:

rebol []




view layout [ button "test" [view/new layout compose [vtext (do-browser 
{var url = document.location.href; url})]]]
the above will show a small page which has a button... click on it 
and the current URL is poped up in a new window  :-)

yippee!
Henrik
18-Jun-2007
[1976]
yes, javascript is quite amazing
Chris
18-Jun-2007
[1977]
I think this is for an older version of the plugin: http://www.ross-gill.com/r/tile-test/
 Need to look into bringing it up to date...
amacleod
7-Apr-2008
[1978]
I was playing around with some of the Demos for the plugin. They 
were working fine and then I got hte request to download the active-x 
component. I downloadred thing perhaps I had an older version installed 
but now the plugin is not working. I get a REBOL/VIEWdll window with 
"Show on face in closed window." printed inside. Anyone?
amacleod
17-Apr-2008
[1979]
I downloaded version 7 of he cab file. All the demos point to version 
5. 

You should not need to go serach for a new version and manulaly delete 
old versions.


The docs also state that if there are version #'s in hte rebol head 
of the app the plugin will aluto update the cashed version if a new 
version is pointed to. I can't get this to work. Is this working?
Gregg
17-Apr-2008
[1980]
I haven't tried using anything past v5. We got it stable and then 
just left it alone.
amacleod
3-Sep-2008
[1981]
I just discovered Tim Wylie's Wrapper for the rebol plugin. It works 
for FireFox3 Google's Chrome and Opera. It allows you to have multiple 
rebol apps running in seperate draggable windows inside the browser 
window. I tried it on opera mini and although the "dock and Application 
laucher windows show and app windows open the apps do not seem to 
run. I'm not sure how the wrapper works if its on the server side 
or client side. It worked on a fresh install of opera without me 
downloading the plugin dll (but it may have been there from a previous 
experiment.) 
Anyone know if opera mini could run this?
This could be a great way to get rebol apps on my mobile phone
BrianH
3-Sep-2008
[1982]
You would need a rebol dll for the operating system and hardware 
of your phone. If it is not running Linux you may be out of luck, 
and if it is you would need to request a build. The WinCE build of 
REBOL is an old port of /Core for the handheld pc version of WinCE 
with no support for onscreen keyboards or Smartphone edition, and 
there is no build for Symbian.
amacleod
3-Sep-2008
[1983x2]
I was able to use it on my linux box with firefox. I know there is 
know plugin for linux firefox and I do not have any form of the plugin 
on that machine.
My mistake. The front end ran but rebol apps do not on the linux 
box...never mind
Graham
9-Oct-2008
[1985x6]
What is the status of the plugin ?  Does it work for FF 3?   IE 7? 
Chrome ?
IE 7 works.
FF3 gives this error
Firefox could not install the file at 

http://www.rebol.com/plugin/rebol-mozb2.xpi

because: Install script not found
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>> exists? http://www.rebol.com/plugin/rebol-mozb2.xpi
connecting to: www.rebol.com
== true
I am thinking of building something that will allow me to annotate 
faxes
If I use the paint program in the library ... as a plugin
I guess my plugin code will have to pass the image as a parameter 
to the code so that it loads the image.