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[Plugin-2] Browser Plugins

Graham
3-May-2006
[64x3]
though I note I had to run a dummy window first otherwise the client 
run inside the browser window instead of as a separate window
http://www.compkarori.com/reb/
If the chat client wipes your hard drive, consider it a security 
exploit!
Carl
3-May-2006
[67]
Problem: the security certificate for IE has expired (about 2 months 
ago). We will need to renew it.
JoshM
3-May-2006
[68]
until then, we can't post the 1.3.2 version.
Carl
3-May-2006
[69]
Anyone have a good low-cost source of certificates?
JoshM
3-May-2006
[70]
code signing certificates
Graham
3-May-2006
[71]
if you post it, it won't install under IE now?
Carl
3-May-2006
[72]
Otherwise, we'll go back to Thawte.
JoshM
3-May-2006
[73]
no, it won't install without a valid certificate.
Carl
3-May-2006
[74x3]
(The vender certification process can take a lot of time... they 
have to verify that we are "good guys".)
So, we're probably locked into Thawte.
Otherwise it can take a week.
Graham
3-May-2006
[77]
has it been tested under IE7 as well?
JoshM
3-May-2006
[78x2]
No, I don't have it installed...if someone does, please tell me how 
it goes.
graham, how do i register for an account with your chat program?
Graham
3-May-2006
[80x2]
at the login page, there's a register button.
I guess Eliza wasn't too helpful?
JoshM
3-May-2006
[82x4]
no ha ha that was funny
We're trying to get the mozilla stuff posted. That's not packaged 
for installation yet (that's 5% of the missing 10%).
But you can copy the files to FireFox\plugins, so it's not that hard.
OK, so I want to get a discussion started. What do you guys want 
to see in the next version of the plugin?
Henrik
3-May-2006
[86]
well, I'm not sure what the level of ambition is for the next version?
JoshM
3-May-2006
[87]
1.3.2 is going out as-is, just an upgrade to the latest rebol viewdll.
Henrik
3-May-2006
[88]
but at some point it'll be essential to run encapsulated scripts 
and use secure connections
JoshM
3-May-2006
[89]
1.3.3 is a feature upgrade, so i'm open to ideas...as long as it 
doesn't rely on something in rebol 3, we can look at it.
Henrik
3-May-2006
[90]
is it in any way tied in with the SDK? is it possible to do /pro 
or /command stuff?
JoshM
3-May-2006
[91]
Not sure on that, I need to check with Carl....I think I understand 
your overall question though, can we make a version of the plugin 
that supports pro/command right?
Henrik
3-May-2006
[92]
I need the plugin for an application that could potentially be used 
for a few thousand users in an open enterprise environment, but signed 
scripts and security are essential there.
JoshM
3-May-2006
[93x3]
got it. we'd have to look at some sort of licensing.
maybe have rebol in the plugin download a license from a web server 
or something like that.
we'd have to figure out a way to prevent others from using your license.
Graham
3-May-2006
[96x3]
A way to protect plugin source code
A way to add higher order encryption
is a must...
Henrik
3-May-2006
[99]
in short, we have to make sure that the right users are running the 
script and only those users have access to data (customers, accounting, 
etc.)
JoshM
3-May-2006
[100]
encrypting the source?
Graham
3-May-2006
[101]
I want my medical client to run in the browser as well.
JoshM
3-May-2006
[102]
Encrypting the source code? encrypting network traffic? both?
Graham
3-May-2006
[103x3]
so need ssl if possible.
both.
if my plugin needs to pull my gmail email .. I need ssl.
JoshM
3-May-2006
[106]
got it.
Carl
3-May-2006
[107x2]
SSL is not necessary if you're using REBOL on both sides.
But, if you need to access non-REBOL, I can see the need.
Graham
3-May-2006
[109]
the x-internet is encrypted now.
Henrik
3-May-2006
[110]
I had this (wild?) idea that the plugin would be able to run normal 
rebol scripts, but with signed scripts encapped with the SDK would 
turn the same plugin into /Pro or /Command. I'm just brainstorming, 
but that would be a nice way to keep everything within one plugin. 
I don't know...
Carl
3-May-2006
[111]
That's what we called /Platform.
JoshM
3-May-2006
[112]
Carl, can we do that?
Carl
3-May-2006
[113]
But, there is always an issue about how you obtain the first keys.