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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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GrahamC 22-Apr-2011 [10038] | Interesting ... I just Cheyenne for pure http and don't serve other web services yet |
Maxim 22-Apr-2011 [10039] | I think this mod can open up new opportunities for cheyenne (well, its already opening up one more client of mine to cheyenne :-). especially when you'll see how brain-dead it is to setup. |
GrahamC 22-Apr-2011 [10040] | brain dead is not a requirement I hope! |
Maxim 22-Apr-2011 [10041x2] | hehe |
maybe I just make the config file in brainfuck language, just to make it look like its a sophisticated thing... I mean, when its too easy, it can be taken for granted ;-) | |
GrahamC 22-Apr-2011 [10043x2] | I recently implemented a soap api to interface with an online accounting package |
But I'd like to take it all inhouse as it were. So, I could use this to reimplement the server side SOAP services? | |
Maxim 22-Apr-2011 [10045x2] | yep. |
because the system actually self-identifies its available interface, we could even generate the SOAP xml schemas automatically, as in, totally dynamically. | |
GrahamC 22-Apr-2011 [10047x2] | So, all I have to do is provide the WSDL ? |
and it creates the soap services for me :) | |
Maxim 22-Apr-2011 [10049] | actually, you just provide the code and the WSDL would be built for you :-) |
GrahamC 22-Apr-2011 [10050] | the otherway suits me better .. that way I can use someone else's WSDL |
Maxim 22-Apr-2011 [10051x5] | yeah, but you still have to put the code behind. the web-api mod, provides an interface automatically based on what is actually being served. you could easily build a little WSDL to REBOL api file converter. just load the XML, extract the methods, the parameters and build an equivalent rebol function stub. Then all you'd have to do is implement the function body.... the only detail is the xml datatype which don't all map 1:1 within rebol, but that can usually be pretty well cornered within the code itself. |
maybe even just provide a little PARSE rule which provides input validation representing the given schema. | |
anyhow... for now SOAP is a larger beast to tackle and I'm more concerned with REST stuff right now, but since the system will be working and you can easily extend it, there is nothing stopping you from building the SOAP interface. | |
(if you need it before I can tackle it) | |
what is the most trouble free linux to run cheyenne on? | |
GrahamC 22-Apr-2011 [10056x3] | I've never had any issues with ubuntu that I couldn't solve |
except | |
how to start Cheyenne automatically ...when linux starts up. | |
Maxim 22-Apr-2011 [10059] | maybe Someone here knows how? |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [10060x2] | For me, the most trouble free Linux to run Cheyenne is Syllable Server :-) |
For autostarting (and shutting down) you have to hook into the init scripts, which are very different between Linux distributions. I remember having trouble with finding a straightforward way on Ubuntu, too | |
PeterWood 23-Apr-2011 [10062] | This any help? http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/ |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [10063x2] | pwd |
Oops, that was meant for my terminal | |
Dockimbel 23-Apr-2011 [10065x2] | Cheyenne revision 134: - FEAT: new config option (globals section): 'allow-method. Extends allowed HTTP methods. - FEAT: -w command line option extended to allow to specify an additional "start" number value. - FIX: -w 0 now starts Cheyenne with no workers at all (was spawning one at start until now). - DOC: updated %changelog.txt (was lagging behind a bit). See %changelog.txt for more info. |
Linux binaries r134 should be available in an hour at: http://cheyenne-server.org/download.shtml | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [10067] | Cool, thanks! |
Dockimbel 23-Apr-2011 [10068] | I still need to add some documentation to the wiki for .r file handling in RSP context and to mention the new cgi-conf script (from onetom). |
onetom 24-Apr-2011 [10069] | what does Database C drivers: MySQL 3,Oracle 8 ... mean, btw? it doesnt work with mysql 5 and ora 10? |
Dockimbel 24-Apr-2011 [10070] | Those drivers are built in REBOL/Command. It depends if Mysql 5 and Oracle 10 servers are compatible with older drivers. I can only answer for Mysql, and the answer is no. |
onetom 24-Apr-2011 [10071x2] | so what's the point supplying those builds, only the https support? |
or why not if u can anyway? | |
Dockimbel 24-Apr-2011 [10073x2] | Not everybody run on Mysql 5 and Oracle 10, so it can be useful to some users. Also it's all or nothing, I cannot chose which native feature I want to include or not. |
The ODBC driver and the SSL support are worth it. | |
onetom 24-Apr-2011 [10075] | makes sense, thx for the explanation. it just looks a bit lame to talk about mysql3 in 2011, isn't it? |
Dockimbel 24-Apr-2011 [10076] | I should maybe remove that mention from the download page...I agree that it looks a bit odd now. |
Kaj 24-Apr-2011 [10077x2] | I've upgraded Cheyenne to the latest binary, r135 |
It recognises the fast-rebol-cgi keyword in the globals now, but it doesn't seem to do anything. It seems to try to execute REBOL code as real CGI. It tries to use the shebang line and has permission problems with CGI files that it didn't have before | |
Dockimbel 25-Apr-2011 [10079] | Thanks for the report, I will test it locally later today. |
Maxim 27-Apr-2011 [10080] | having issues starting the cheyenne server from win. it doesn't find the system libs. I had a fix for the same issue in some other code I did... I'll try to see if this cures the bug in cheyenne . |
Dockimbel 27-Apr-2011 [10081] | What do you mean by "system libs"? kernel32.dll? |
Maxim 27-Apr-2011 [10082x3] | it turns out it was a different problem... he was running core. but the proper way of loading libs (and I've had to do it to make it work on 64 bit systems) |
system-libs-root: rejoin [to-rebol-file get-env "systemroot" %"/system32/" ] kernel32: load/library join system-libs-root %kernel32.dll user32: load/library join system-libs-root %user32.dll advapi32: load/library join system-libs-root %advapi32.dll shell32: load/library join system-libs-root %shell32.dll iphlpapi: load/library join system-libs-root %iphlpapi.dll | |
I was using the simple setup you are using and it woudn't work in all people's windows system... the above does work in all windows machines. | |
Dockimbel 27-Apr-2011 [10085x2] | I never tested it on 64-bit Windows, but I find it a bit odd that Windows can't find the system library by itself. It is supposed to search automatically in all default system folders. |
Also, IIRC, that is the first time someone mentions such issue, and I am pretty sure that several peoples here already tried it on 64-bit Windows. | |
Maxim 27-Apr-2011 [10087] | yeah, it should but it doesn't it seems ... the code resulted from feedback when I shared the windows-chrono.r lib on rebol.org and a user reported failing lib loading. |
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