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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

Terry
11-Oct-2006
[106]
cheyenne nearly twice as fast
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[107]
Good news! Thanks Terry !
Maxim
11-Oct-2006
[108]
does cheyenne handle http 1.0 and 1.1 transparently (expecting yes, 
but need a specific answer)?
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[109x2]
But a more elaborate benchmark may show closer results between these 
too. Size of files and OS have big impacts on the results.
1.0 & 1.1 : yes
Henrik
11-Oct-2006
[111]
dockimbel, I assume the benchmarks improve when caching is used?
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[112x2]
but not exaustively tested yet. The unit tests are still under development
Caching is on, by default, for files < 16kb
Terry
11-Oct-2006
[114x2]
another testapp bug.. now the 16RSP won't fire, sends me back to 
login (previous error message is gone, and works fine with 4RSP)
Ok, working now.. had to clear the cookies
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[116]
Sessions are not yet completly stable.
Maxim
11-Oct-2006
[117]
does fast-cgi need /command license?
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[118x2]
No, it's a client implementation of my own (/Command implements a 
server-side FastCGI protocol)
Terry: this bug has been noted and will be fixed in next release.
Maxim
11-Oct-2006
[120]
thanks... so far, if everything works without bugs, I think you just 
made yourself a new user, I'll be testing it tomorrow.
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[121]
HTTP support is stable, CGI are ok, RSP too, just avoid sessions 
for now. Next release will bring a complete rewrite of the session 
support for faster and more stable behaviour.
Maxim
11-Oct-2006
[122]
hum... there is one thing I am not sure I get, what do you mean by 
"server-side" (do you imply your's is not, and if so what does that 
really mean?)
Graham
11-Oct-2006
[123]
session support is still buggy ??  not what I wanted to hear :(
Maxim
11-Oct-2006
[124]
doc, what timeframe between releases? days, weeks, months?
Terry
11-Oct-2006
[125]
Any php examples?
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[126x2]
I should be able to make small releases each week (mainly bugfixes) 
and release monthly new features. It's the rate of release that I've 
doing since a year now (for a few ppl and customers).
Terry: Any php script would work, you just have to connect a php 
exe compiled with fastcgi support. I'll give more info on how to 
setup such config once the fastcgi module will go beta. I plan to 
bundle a php exe with the binary Cheyenne with no setup needs for 
end user.
Will
11-Oct-2006
[128]
Terry, how do you run Cheyenne on an iPod?
Terry
11-Oct-2006
[129x2]
'from' would be a better term
the ipod acts as a HD
Will
11-Oct-2006
[131]
Ah! ok 8)
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[132x2]
Graham: yes it still has some issues, that's why I'm working on a 
new implementation that should fix all problems. That's my first 
priority for Cheyenne.
Session support would have been so much more easier to add if REBOL 
had multithreading...
Maarten
11-Oct-2006
[134]
Doc: is sessions support not very easily added if you do it from 
the db-abastraction layer. Much more scalable as well
Dockimbel
11-Oct-2006
[135x3]
Marteen: the main issue is more about synchronization between 2 or 
more REBOL processes to avoid the modification of the same session 
data at the same time...
Storing session data in a DB might be an interesting solution, but 
it will be slower than the current native approach.
I've setup a Blog for Cheyenne by adapting Carl's one : http://softinnov.org/cheyenne/blog.cgi
Graham
11-Oct-2006
[138x2]
memory resident db ?
Carl's blog needs a way to implement emoticons !
Terry
11-Oct-2006
[140x2]
:(
Rebol is alive... again :)
Dockimbel
12-Oct-2006
[142x2]
Graham: good idea, I already wrote REBOL code to support emoticons 
in another project. I'll add it to the blog. (Note to myself : The 
link to Carl's blog source code disapeared in our blog template file, 
I have to put it back!)
Memory DB: even in memory if you count the overhead of a SQL layer 
+ storage layer, it would still be much slower than direct storing 
of data in a REBOL block! or hash!.
Maarten
12-Oct-2006
[144]
Doc: I know, but I also read the RubyOnRails book where they measured 
all this. A database scales better, and for low usage the performance 
hit you tahe is little. Files/memory is faster but collapses pretty 
soon, MySQL runs with constant overhead (and little enough, I might 
add). It is more a question of balancing performance with different 
load scenarios.
Rebolek
12-Oct-2006
[145]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_servers
Cheyenne missing here :)
Graham
12-Oct-2006
[146x2]
I was using rebol blocks to store greylisting data ...
However after a few hundred thousand greylisting entries .. it started 
to collapse a little.  I should have gone db ...
Louis
12-Oct-2006
[148]
Doc, I am also one of your fans. I've been going to your web site 
regularly to see if Cheyenne was released. I was excited to be able 
to download it. But I have a problem. Cheyenne loads fine, but when 
I try to test the links on the index.html page they fail. What am 
I doing wrong?
Dockimbel
12-Oct-2006
[149]
Are you using the exe version or source version ? What OS ? Any crash.log 
file found ?
Louis
12-Oct-2006
[150]
Both versions act the same. Win XP Home. No crash.log file found. 
 This is what loads:

[uniserve] Async Protocol FastCGI loaded
[uniserve] Starting task-master...
[uniserve] Starting HTTPd...
Dockimbel
12-Oct-2006
[151]
Can you give me details on what is failing precisely ?
Louis
12-Oct-2006
[152]
Test CGI script

Test RSP script

Test RSP WebApp
Dockimbel
12-Oct-2006
[153]
What error message do you have ?
Louis
12-Oct-2006
[154x2]
For the RSP WebApp test I get:

 The page cannot be displayed 

The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site 
might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to 
adjust your browser settings.
For Text CGI script I get:


#!/usr/bin/rebol --cgi REBOL [ Title: "show" File: %show.r ] print 
"Content-type: text/html^/" print {Back

} print ["Script path :" system/script/path "

] print 
CGI Object :" print "

 foreach name next first system/options/cgi [ either :name = 'other-headers 
 [ print [
 name 
: 
] foreach [n v] list: system/options/cgi/:name [ print [
 n 
: " mold select list n ""] ] print "
 ][ print [
 name 
: " mold system/options/cgi/:name ""] ] ] print "
 if system/options/cgi/request-method = 

POST" [ vars: make object! decode-cgi make string! input if not empty? 
next first vars [ print " Variables passed :

 foreach name next first vars [ print [
 name 
: " mold vars/:name ""] ] print "
 ] ] print