World: r3wp

I wrote the basic functions a couple of years ago here http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8000/Googledocs

we are not talking about the same thing then. u said u were using 
google docs' editor as a text area editor. it didn't sound like u 
were creating an actual google document

I was though ... and then using the Api reimporting it

that's why I want an alternative that plays nicely with rsp

and u were deleting the doc afterwards or how?

nice idea actually, because it takes care about autosaving too

( ur site is fucking awesome, btw. i always wanted to thank you for 
it. i learnt a lot from it! )

Not deleting it .. just saves as backup on googledocs :)

That's what sites are for .. to share the knowledge !

another good site is http://www.codeconscious.comits too bad its 
author doesn't come here anymore.

thats my other favourite too

Graham, do you mean a WYSIWYG HTML editor?

Well, yes, but I'm only using a plain text .. so an editor that saves 
the current text regularly.

What I do at present is ... create an empty document on googledocs, 
and save the docid in the database.  I then browse to the doc on 
googledocs, edit it and save it.

I then go back to my rsp page and click on a button that imports 
the document as plain text.

here's how it works http://screencast.com/t/tDIbH8dYj

I guess the wiki editor on Qtask would work for me too.

I collected links to several HTML editor widgets, but I don't know 
how they would do auto-saving

I guess it would need to be programmed on HTML5 local storage

How does Google do it?

Google Docs is an extensive office suite in the cloud, with a server 
backend that does such functionality

Presumably there's some JS that does the saving?

In any case. You could program something with a timer that sends 
the edit field to the server via AJAX, but you'd have to program 
the server as well

Do you know of any editors with such timer features?

I didn't look at them that closely

A standalone editor widget sounds more like something that tries 
not to depend on a server or HTML5

I've seen some editors that are tied closely to php ...

If that tickles your fancy

Those are the ones I need to avoid!

I guess I'm going to see if I can use tinymce .. http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/tryit/full.php
 just was hoping someone had one working well with rsp already.  
tinymce is overspecced for what I need.

Yeah, that's one of the better ones I have bookmarked

This is a small editor with ajax support .. but probably no autosave 
http://remiya.com/htmlbox/index.php/12/demo/ajax-demo.html

but html ...

Needs JQuery

This is odd .. I put the tinymce on my site and I don't see any widgets 
using Chrome but FF works

yet, if I browse to the tinymce website using Chrome, it works there.

Oh well, I'll get it integrated with my web app first and figure 
this out later on.

how about this?
http://rikrikrik.com/jquery/autosave/

or do u need the draft work accessible on serverside already?

no, so this is cute.

just need to make sure that if someone navigates away, they don't 
lose work

is bandwidth an issue? how much is the largest text they might need 
to save?

A couple of pages I guess

because it always gets sent w all the http requests then, if it's 
stored in a cookie. so if u have images in the same domain(/folder) 
for example, then data is sent for those too

imean the saved textarea data

yeah, using cookies for storage isn't a good idea... also since many 
people are using cookie controlers now.

using server side character based logging of changed text shouldn't 
be a problem.   plus, if the browser breaks, when he comes back he 
finds all his text minus a word or two!


just log character changes and send them to the server at every word 
or line. when the server replies, send the next batch.

(using AJAX)

sounds like I would need to write some JS!

Maxim: im guessing graham doesnt really like to write JS and i have 
to admit, i don't like to write either if i can write rebol code 
instead OR it's already been written  :)

You got script tiny : http://www.scriptiny.com/2010/02/javascript-wysiwyg-editor/
This site also provide tiny table, tony menu...

well, I got the tinymce working ...