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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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Pekr 14-Feb-2012 [11201x3] | Altme is a slow UI? Just don't make me laugh, those who claim so. Have you tried Azureus? That's Java. Altme just runs ok. We all know, that the UI is not OS compatible, so there are things to be desired. And altme server can run for months without a restart. |
Altme is consistent speed wise. I have 3 years not reinstalled my Vista, so once my ntb boots, it takes 5-7 minutes to be usable.I click on many apps to start, and Altme definitely starts first. Stuff as Outlook, Firefox, etc., take usually tens of seconds! | |
Well, this belongs to Altme, or advocacy, sorry. | |
Endo 14-Feb-2012 [11204x2] | The most important thing in optimization is to decide which part should be optimized. If you optimize INSERT, even 0.1%, this gives a huge difference. But optimizing something in your INIT function which will be called once when the app. start.. I would say don't sacrifice the readablity. So optimizing core is almost always necessary (like R2/3 function, functions in frameworks like LIQUID), Optimizing the functions in your app. or the app. itself, only if it worths. |
Maxim: you are mostly talking about the overall performance gain in the whole system. But the case above (Cheyenne, do-sql bug) we gain 2-3% performance just in do-sql function, IF it's used in a millions loop (or returns a few millions of rows) AND only IF you use native drivers AND only IF you use /flat refinement. which leads very rare cases. So the overall perfornance difference is very very low. (well, still WHILE faster than UNTIL in above case anyway..) | |
Endo 15-Feb-2012 [11206] | Doc: I've solved "Cheyenne cannot be installed as a service on Windows 2003 Server" problem. service.dll requires msvcr71.dll to run, if not present Cheyenne crashes with "** Access Error: Cannot open service.dll as library" error. msvcr71.dll file should be present in same folder with service.dll or better it should be in %windir%\system32 (or the correct path if 64bit OS) I think we should note this dependency somewhere on the web site. |
Dockimbel 15-Feb-2012 [11207] | Right, I should also recompile it with a more recent version of msvcrt library I guess. |
Endo 15-Feb-2012 [11208x2] | Its better Cheyenne should write (create) a msvc71.dll if it is not already in the same directory. Because when I search for that library I see that almost every program has that dll in their own directory. Because we cannot trust that the correct version will be in the system folder. OR a better error handling/message for this error :) |
SQL Server, Office, Java, SVN, Photoshop.. they all have it in their own directories.. But older versions of Windows don't have it default. | |
Dockimbel 15-Feb-2012 [11210x3] | It would at least double the size of the Cheyenne binary, for a feature only a few use. I would rather prefer to provide links for downloading the right DLL for each Windows version. |
All the software you are listing are bloated software that don't care to follow the basic rule of sharing libraries, especially when it's the libc. | |
I think that the following package installs the msvcr71.dll file: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=5638 | |
Endo 15-Feb-2012 [11213] | You are right, giving a link is better than including the whole dll. What do you think about making a setup package for Windows? Including that dll and some configuration options during the setup, service mode default, etc. If do you think its worth to do, I can do it. |
Dockimbel 15-Feb-2012 [11214] | One of Cheyenne's selling point is: no installation required :-) |
GrahamC 15-Feb-2012 [11215:last] | @Endo, you can do it, and Doc can link to it :) |
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