World: r3wp
[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1227] | Im catching the 404s nicely now.. loading up the mootools JS library, and pushing dynamic JS back to the page via Ajax. |
Dockimbel 4-Jun-2007 [1228] | I'm glad you're having fun with Cheyenne :-) |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1229x4] | Actually, using.. do load %myfile in my url-to-filename phase.. it's loading the functions each time, but I'll move them into main boot script when they're stable |
only a true geek has fun with this stuff. | |
( I guess that makes me a geek ;) | |
So, what are your near future plans for cheyenne? | |
Dockimbel 4-Jun-2007 [1233x2] | reach v1.0 ;-) |
add all the missing features planned for v1.0 (see the cheyenne's web page for more info) | |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1235] | I might be able to help with this.. Customizable HTTP error pages. What did you have in mind? |
Dockimbel 4-Jun-2007 [1236x2] | RE: "How does Cheyenne's performance and security stack up against the other indians (Apache, Cherrokee, Hiawatha, ...)?" Speed: close to Apache2.x for static files (tested a year ago, so new tests need to be conducted). Security: not chroot-ed and no special protection against ddos attacks like Hiawatha, no bandwidth throttling (could be added), no CGI time limit (could be added), passes Nikto generic security tests flawlessly (last time check : few months ago) |
Customizable HTTP error pages: server-side redirection on 4xx and 5xx errors to any pages, user-defined in config file. | |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1238x4] | I think a biggy will be SSL support |
Have you looked at openSSL ? | |
Well, I have SSL running in Cheyenne.. it's not pretty, but was quick | |
I suppose one issue will be connecting to the library.. would require view/pro? Can call the binary, but it's a less elegant solution | |
Graham 4-Jun-2007 [1242] | Why is it not pretty? |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1243] | This method is for windows.. and runs a shell |
Graham 4-Jun-2007 [1244] | stunnel ? |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1245x6] | If you want to try this method for windows.. here's what you do.. 1) download the windows binary from openssl.. -> http://www.slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html 2) Unzip.. and pull out the openssl.exe file from the bin folder.. . drop that file into your cheyenne www folder 3) Create a self-signed cert.... 3a) run openssl.exe 3b) enter this line: req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:1024 -keyout localhost.pem -out localhost.pem (localhost is the cert name) 3c) answer the questions... when asked 'who are you?' enter your domain, or 'localhost' as I did This will generate the cert in your www folder (this is just a demo... the openssl server uses it's location as root www folder) 4) Start up the server... enter this line into openssl: s_server -accept 443 -cert localhost.pem -WWW Now open any file in your Cheyenne www folder using the https:// protocol |
you only need the openssl.exe file for this demo | |
If you acess Cheynne as https://localhost/myfile.htmlyou won't get the second cert warning | |
Stunnel would work | |
Wonder what Carl has in mind for library access with R3? | |
Can always call, but lib access would be nicer. | |
Graham 4-Jun-2007 [1251] | http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8080/wiki/index.php/HowTos:Stunnel |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1252] | no go for me |
Graham 4-Jun-2007 [1253] | well, I didn't try it ..just documented it! |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1254] | ok.. working now |
Graham 4-Jun-2007 [1255] | So, the howto is correct? |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1256x7] | i missed the comment in front of ;https[] in config |
yeah | |
Works nicely too.. sit in sys tray | |
don't need to put into root folder (probably not a good place for the cert by the way) | |
and... can use to encrypt other protocols.. bonus | |
you could use it for cerebus | |
So, short of making Cheyenne cost $99. by forcing view/pro for lib access.. these are probably the best options. | |
Graham 4-Jun-2007 [1263] | R3 may well have these for free |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1264] | You'll want to use OpenSSL to generate a cert for Stunnel to replace the default |
Graham 4-Jun-2007 [1265x5] | If I have a large amount of html that I want to reuse in each page, rather than including it from the disk, can I define them as rebol variables to be reduced inside rsp pages? |
Like Zope as it were. | |
And this to save me defining lots of static code in pages that is the same everywhere | |
I guess I can use Max's preprocessor for this | |
Does the rsp evaluate files included using include-file ? | |
Dockimbel 4-Jun-2007 [1270] | no |
Graham 4-Jun-2007 [1271x3] | I've converted my site to https as well using the above howto .. only took 2 mins. As you say, I have to generate a new certificate. https://www.compkarori.co.nz/ |
Where is the debugging javascript added ? | |
when debug is true? | |
Pekr 4-Jun-2007 [1274] | I just recently received whole new website for our Xidys site ... it is - templates, but there is some php code in there, and it sucks - they did not tell me ;-) Unfortunatelly, templates are easy. They did a trick, when whole top, bottom section plus left menu is one template, and content is "included" into the template, according to what item you choose in the menu. The advantage is - you don't have repeating part on more than one place. Disadvantage is - when you want to display the content part, you easily can't, as that template waits for inclusion, does not have headers, and hence it does not link to css - that aproach sucks, it does not work without whole production environment .... |
Chris 4-Jun-2007 [1275] | Terry, what method are you using to intercept 404s? |
Terry 4-Jun-2007 [1276] | Chris, I basically set Cheyennes current mod-static to return false if 404, then created a module with the same phase with a 'if 404...' function. This second url-to-filename is set to 'last' in the new module. |
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