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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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Graham 6-Jun-2007 [1341] | This kills FF 2.04 |
yeksoon 6-Jun-2007 [1342x2] | I don't have any problem with FF. I can see the image in FF, it's a 'Dell ad'. |
I'm on FF v 2.0.0.4 | |
Graham 6-Jun-2007 [1344x2] | Hmm. Kills my PC. Perhaps I have a problem with my PC then? |
Time to reformat I guess... | |
yeksoon 6-Jun-2007 [1346] | just to add on, it uses the Quicktime plugin to load the image in FF |
Dockimbel 6-Jun-2007 [1347] | It doesn't seem that FF can handle TIFF files natively, I don't have the QT plugin so FF just propose me to download the file. I can see the TIFF file using my favorite imaging app, so no problem with the TIFF image. |
Will 6-Jun-2007 [1348x2] | Graham, if you really want to serve tiff images and maybe at high resolution, look here: http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/demo.shtml |
otherwise as Dock said, quicktime handle tiff format but.. | |
Maxim 6-Jun-2007 [1350x6] | tiff is evil. |
tiff is a component based architecture, of which there is no standard on the minimal required components. so can't even be sure of the direction of the image, if the image creator didn't include that info in the image, | |
plus, loaders don't understand all the tags, which further increases the nightmare. | |
tiff is only really cool, when you are sure, all your softwares can load and save tiffs amongst themselves and they all agree on what an image IS... | |
I've have 24 bit pictures saved from a $10k effects software load upside down, black & white in "the gimp". | |
(as an extreme and real example) | |
btiffin 6-Jun-2007 [1356] | Hey...Tiff is 'in' Sorry. :) I agree with Maxim's points. Just had to. |
Maxim 6-Jun-2007 [1357x4] | but since tiff allows people to create their own components within, a few "standards" for high-end photography exist IIRC. These usually include HDRI imagery and things like lens aperture and other goodies... now, before you get all fuzzy and warm inside.... it doesn't mean the data is readable by open softwares, just that its there... |
and the main issue is that this info will dissapear whenever you save out the image... cause tools like photoshop do not keep it, AFAIK. | |
there was even an image viewer plugin for Windows which would inadvertently clear the data whenever you would read pics off you camera!! hehe talk about incompetency! yep, the plugin would open the file read-write, seek up till the end of the image data and close the file... which would then truncate it :-) hahahaha | |
but alas, I just realised we are in cheyenne group... DOH! sorry for the pollution. | |
Dockimbel 6-Jun-2007 [1361x2] | Cheyenne release v0.9.13 beta. Download at http://softinnov.org/tmp/cheyenne-r0913.zip Changelog : o Session cookie management refactored. Cookies are now cached in memory. Fixes all issues related to timezone. o HTTPd request pipeline refactored. It's now more reliable, little faster and able to handle extreme situations (stressing with FasterFox). Several core parts of Cheyenne have been touched, so watch out for regressions. o Added 'forward method to RSP's Response object (now possible thanks to the new pipeline engine). o Internal modules API changed : 'deferred? property removed (not needed anymore with new pipeline). o Added 'on-status-code option in config file (see example in %httpd.cfg). o do-sql now catches internal errors, so they can be more easily located in calling context. |
Remember that I've done some deep changes in this version, so test it carefully before putting it online. | |
Graham 6-Jun-2007 [1363x2] | Regarding TIFF images, I have no control there. Incoming faxes are saved as TIFF images and stored in the file system. TIFF because they are often multipage images. I am just serving them out again. |
There's another anomaly I have with IE. If you login as guest and click on the link immunizations, it tries to download the page instead of showing the 404 handler page which does work with FF. | |
Dockimbel 7-Jun-2007 [1365x2] | Content-Type: none, in the response. Are your using version 0.9.13 and the new 'on-status-code option ? |
(btw, I'm watching the response header using IEWatch component) | |
Graham 7-Jun-2007 [1367x3] | I'll download 9.13 now |
crap .. just overwrote my files with yours :( | |
Ok, 9.13 fixes the problem with the 404 | |
Maxim 7-Jun-2007 [1370x2] | dockimbel are you available for real support in the next few days? |
I have a past project which *might* need to be replaced by cheyenne... but I will have tons of questions for sure... and without quick response... I am a bit wont to put time on this fix... since I am not totally sure it will do what I need.... | |
Dockimbel 7-Jun-2007 [1372] | Max: I'll be online in AltME from 9 jun to 13 jun most of the time, so, in this range, I should be able to answer your questions in 12 hours max delay. But I guess other people, like Will, could also answer most of your questions. If you have a lot of questions,m aybe it would be better to send them on a private channel, or Chat channel. |
Graham 8-Jun-2007 [1373] | Would it be difficult to encap all the rsp pages with Cheyenne so that Cheyenne grabs the rsp pages from it's virtual filing system? |
Will 8-Jun-2007 [1374] | have no idea about encapping but maybe look in cheyenne.r and also in mod-internal.r not sure.. |
Maxim 8-Jun-2007 [1375] | ok, so I'll try to look at cheyenne within the next few days. is the MOD building documented anywhere? |
Will 8-Jun-2007 [1376] | /Cheyenne/docs/developer-guide.html + look at the many examples ;-) |
Maxim 8-Jun-2007 [1377x2] | thanks. is the MOD system flexible enough to allow the server to be something else than a "WEB" server... more precisely, a web service, I already have all the XML and schema validation libs to make it... its just that my current server is blocking and when I relay commands to othe servers, it causes timeouts on new commands. |
oops on new *connections* | |
Will 8-Jun-2007 [1379] | if you don't need the http service than you propably need only uni-engine.r and build your own service/protocol otherwise mods can override every phase of the httpd .. better wait for DocK.. |
Maxim 8-Jun-2007 [1380x3] | ok the "every phase of httpd" is just wanted to hear :-) |
web services usually use http, but don't serve out cgi nor web "pages"... so the return values are always processed. | |
has anyone succcessfully used OpenSSL, or is it still a "just use OpenSSL" suggestion... | |
Will 8-Jun-2007 [1383] | look at phase return codes in the doc, and search in this group for phase order execution |
Terry 8-Jun-2007 [1384x3] | If by sucessful you mean Open |
SSL... working along side of Cheyenne.. then yeah.. and sTunnel as well. | |
If you mean tying the OpenSSL libs directly via view/pro, then no. | |
Dockimbel 8-Jun-2007 [1387x2] | Graham: there's some experimental stuff about that in mod-internal, but still needs some improvement to be ready to encap a complete web site in the Cheyenne binary. But that's a planned feature, I'll provide better support for that in a week or 2. |
Maxim, I'll provide this weekend a new module for easy Cheyenne embedding in third-party REBOL application. It should give you all the hooks you need to interface with your code and build your specialized server. | |
Graham 8-Jun-2007 [1389] | Cool. Thanks. |
Maxim 8-Jun-2007 [1390] | ok, will wait for that then :-) |
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