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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

Graham
22-Oct-2007
[2204]
But it may actually be PITS as when you're doing RSP, the code is 
limited to that page alone.
btiffin
22-Oct-2007
[2205]
Re acronyms.  Yep, must remember to mention the full text at least 
once per post cycle from now on.  


More on the namespace issue in user.r chat; but I'd like Cheyenne 
to be given a pride of place status for word usage, equivalent to 
what we'll be following with our rules for dealing with RT's word 
usage.  i.e they win, we deal with it.  Go Doc Go!


Re BBS for Cheyenne.  I'd almost like to extend RBBS out to something 
more grandious, and at the same time extend the tutorial Carl and 
Gregg and Volker and Tom built up, but along with the CGI (or instead 
of) document the RSP side of it.
Graham
22-Oct-2007
[2206x3]
RBBS?
http://www.rebol.com/docs/cgi-bbs.html
We don't want this tutorial to get too large, so we decided not to 
include certain features at this time. Some of them may be added 
as part of a future CGI tutorial.

        * User accounts (including user registration)
        * Browser cookies
        * Fancy message formatting
        * Message searching
        * File locking methods


so straight away we don't need file locking methods, browser cookies
Graham
23-Oct-2007
[2209x2]
Did you want to work with RBBS ?
or start afresh?
btiffin
23-Oct-2007
[2211x3]
I'm using RBBS on peoplecards.ca so I may be in a conflict of interest. 
 Let's work with RBBS.  :)  But it's REBOL code; short and sweet 
and powerful.  A complete rewrite in Cheyenne RSP sounds tempting 
too.
There is the rebolBB codebase too.  I just wasn't that big a fan 
of the use of IMAP.  And Vanilla is still pretty cool if not a little 
but neglected.
but = bit
Graham
23-Oct-2007
[2214x6]
no, nor me.
I can't get it working anymore .. and it doesn't like MS's imap implementation, 
nor AOL's free IMAP server.
where's the original RBBS.r script ?  Before it got modded by Dirk?
vanilla - not a bbs
ok, see it on your site.
Has anyone posted a message yet?
btiffin
23-Oct-2007
[2220x2]
Umm, yes and no.  Spam.  I delete one or two a day and neglect it 
the rest of the time.
I found it easiest to just re-init when spam comes in, as the only 
real messages were me talking to me.
Graham
23-Oct-2007
[2222]
need some anti-spam techniques then
Oldes
23-Oct-2007
[2223]
I tell you all the time, just insert the form using javascript. I 
do it this way and I had no problems with a spam yet.
Terry
23-Oct-2007
[2224]
Why don't you build it using Atom.. very straight forward, I have 
a few modules i could port.. and would make a good tutorial for everyone.
btiffin
23-Oct-2007
[2225]
Motivated to add counter-measures.  Activated the PoL (Proof of Life) 
code.  I'll watch the logs for a while but I think the rbbs.r on 
peoplecards should now be closer to immune from the robot spammer 
that tagged me a few months back.


Terry; Might be a good idea.  Promoting Cheyenne, promoting Semantic 
Database and building something rebols can use for a forum all at 
the same time.  Many birds, few stones.
Graham
23-Oct-2007
[2226]
Cheyenne has captcha built in, and that's what I use
Terry
24-Oct-2007
[2227]
Where's our man Doc these days?
Pekr
24-Oct-2007
[2228x2]
working hard on projects?
One thing is clear - with R3 we have to get new blood, or we'll die. 
Successfull rebollers are moved to other projects, and they nearly 
disappear from community life ...
Steeve
24-Oct-2007
[2230x3]
not sure of that, i think  rebolers are waiting for R3 and stopped 
all R2 projects
that's why it's so urgent to pop up a release (even an alpha one)
Everyone has already given his opinion but I repeat anyway. 
It is damaging not to open the aplha. 
Rebolers are sick of waiting.
Terry
24-Oct-2007
[2233]
Not the group for this, but the R3 license will decide if it flies 
or not.
Gabriele
25-Oct-2007
[2234]
i don't think there are many people who stopped r2 projects... and 
surely not nenad.
Dockimbel
25-Oct-2007
[2235]
Hi guys, my current mission is ending, so I'll be back fulltime on 
Cheyenne in a couple of days. I have a v0.9.17 close to release.
Graham
25-Oct-2007
[2236x2]
Seen any problems with odbc and encapped Cheyenne??
I get all sorts of cursor problems
Dockimbel
25-Oct-2007
[2238]
Developers stopping their work on R2 waiting for R3 are just loosing 
time. I bet that R2 will still be the stable REBOL in 6 months (maybe 
even more). For professional work, stick to R2, until R3 reaches 
a stable level.
Graham
25-Oct-2007
[2239x2]
wrong group
is the new version contain any bug fixes or is it justs control panel 
enhancements?
Dockimbel
25-Oct-2007
[2241]
Hi Graham, never tested Cheyenne with ODBC. Do you see differences 
between encapped version and source version running on rebcmd.exe 
?
Graham
25-Oct-2007
[2242]
Yes.
Dockimbel
25-Oct-2007
[2243]
Bugfixes and new features. Control panel is not ready for prime time.
Graham
25-Oct-2007
[2244]
I encapped Cheyenne to run my patient portal and the data returned 
from a sql query is all corrupted
Dockimbel
25-Oct-2007
[2245]
did you try to : probe copy db ? (and see the raw result returned 
by the db port)
Graham
25-Oct-2007
[2246x3]
I am wondering if anyone can reproduce this .. or whether it's just 
me!
No.  I wasn't sure where to begin to debug this.
and I had a deadline to meet .. so I just used the source code version
Dockimbel
25-Oct-2007
[2249]
are you using the 'do-sql command ?
Graham
25-Oct-2007
[2250]
yes
Dockimbel
25-Oct-2007
[2251]
are you on XP or Vista ?
Graham
25-Oct-2007
[2252x2]
2003
Haven't tested under XP or Vista yet.