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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3472]
So, I'm looking to change.
Henrik
1-Dec-2008
[3473]
any good words about them?
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3474x2]
They get very good reviews
on tech forums
Henrik
1-Dec-2008
[3476]
interesting
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3477]
They were recently bought out by rackspace ... so we will see if 
that changes anything.
Henrik
1-Dec-2008
[3478]
I would like to hear more if someone gets to use Cheyenne on them. 
(as I deeply miss a high bandwidth, high uptime Cheyenne host).
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3479x2]
maybe if we all contribute a few $$ each , we can get a slice we 
can all share for REbol scripts
have Cheyenne ... and each person runs their own vhosts
AdrianS
1-Dec-2008
[3481]
I'd chip in
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3482x3]
That will stress doc out!! LOL
I'm up for $20
We can now run it for 2 months!
Henrik
1-Dec-2008
[3485]
Did Carl see it when it was discussed to change host?
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3486x4]
Richard offered a free host .. so it was not discussed.  however 
Richard has now gone awol
If I can get 12 people .. viz. a year .. I'll start the process of 
ordering a slice.
I'm going to suggest ubuntun server as the OS.
Ubuntu
Henrik
1-Dec-2008
[3490]
At that price, it seems like a steal. The question down the road 
is, who is stealing from who. :-)
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3491x2]
Well, we could use EC2 ... but that's $70/month
we would have to have someone who is very intimate wth Cheyenne to 
run the Cheyenne side.
Ashley
1-Dec-2008
[3493]
All my stuff is hosted on http://www.webarama.com.au/and they've 
been pretty amenable to my other requests. Is it just a case of getting 
them to "install" REBOL for me much as Perl is? If so, which version 
of REBOL do I need? Can I get away with /base?
AdrianS
1-Dec-2008
[3494]
what about a DB?
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3495]
core ... and just place it in /bin directory
AdrianS
1-Dec-2008
[3496]
the $20 slice includes just 256MB of RAM
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3497]
256mb is heaps
AdrianS
1-Dec-2008
[3498]
for DB too?
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3499x3]
sure ...
we can easily apt-get mysql
what were you thinking of running?
AdrianS
1-Dec-2008
[3502]
don't have anything specific at this time - just thinking ahead
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3503]
the good thing is .. you just pay a litle more to get more ram
AdrianS
1-Dec-2008
[3504x2]
how much more?
price, I mean
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3506]
http://www.slicehost.com/
Dockimbel
1-Dec-2008
[3507]
Ashley: If you intend to run Cheyenne on port 80, it requires root 
privileges, will your ISP allow REBOL or encapped Cheyenne to run 
as root? (There's an option in Cheyenne to "su" to another uid/gid 
but it was never tested in production).
kcollins
1-Dec-2008
[3508x4]
Graham, I would recommend Linode over Slicehost.
I have used both. Linode offers you much more flexibility in controlling 
your VPS. For example, you can have multiple disk images at the same 
time (although only one can be active).
Also, Linode provides more RAM and disk space for the same price, 
and in my experience has somewhat better performance.
http://www.linode.com/features.cfm
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3512x2]
Interesting.... but raid 1 vs raid 10
Have you tried both?
kcollins
1-Dec-2008
[3514]
yes
Graham
1-Dec-2008
[3515x3]
I'm easy ...
Even raid 10 is no guarantee....
Pity they don't seem to take paypal ...
CharlesW
4-Dec-2008
[3518]
A colleague of mine showed me an Object Relational Mapping product 
that generates a series of DLL for .net. (Abstracts the database 
tables as objects with methods for inserts, updates, deletes, joins, 
etc..) I don't know if I am a fan of such a tool but I was wondering 
if anyone is doing something similar with rebol or if this type of 
functionality is built in Cheyenne. Is it possible to provide abstraction 
of the databases in Cheyenne using a series of RSP's, web services, 
ORM technology? What's the best approach for enterprise portal development 
with Rebol?
Kaj
4-Dec-2008
[3519]
Hm, I have a very small data abstraction library that uses a prototype 
for a database, currently file-based - but it's not very ENTERPRISE 
:-)
CharlesW
4-Dec-2008
[3520]
Kaj can you describe the benefit. I have seen a few sites that are 
for ORM and others against.
Kaj
4-Dec-2008
[3521]
Oh, one of the aspects of my library that make it not enterprise 
is that I'm not doing object-relational mappings. :-) I'm staying 
away from both as much as possible