World: r3wp

or is Rambo being kept for R2 stuff

Nope, R2=>RAMBO, as far as I know.

If you run into any mezzanine bugs in 2.7.6+, please bug me about 
them too, I'll fix them :)

Anyway, I'll remove the 'no-delay mode from Cheyenne in 0.9.19 when 
running on Windows.

Don't suppose anyone else is running Vista who can test this too 
...

What is the no-delay mode?

I'd like to keep my laptop here.

No-delay mode: control of the Nagle algorithm in TCP layer.

It's documented here : http://www.rebol.com/docs/core25.html#sect1.2.3.

That sounds interesting. I look forward to reading the source for 
that :)

(in Cheyenne I mean)

so, no-delay = true, nagle is operational?

That would be no-delay = false.

I'll say the opposite.

Right, no-delay = false => nagle in use

BrianH: do you have a list of patches to apply to R2.7.6 ?

I've just put the [web-public] flag back.

BrianH: about EXTRACT, there's no bug in 2.7.6 I'm aware of, it causes 
a regression on Cheyenne only because the old EXTRACT was wrongly 
returning a block! value when taking a hash! value as input.

That regression is fixed in Cheyenne 0.9.19.

I will be maintaining a patch script for 2.7.6, though it is not 
yet online. All of the patches are in DevBase for now.

No patch-in-place though - replacement functions.

doc, were you going to rambo this 'no-delay issue?

I thought that you would do that  just before sending your laptop 
to Carl. ;-)

I'll fill a new ticket right now.

Is this going to affect Cheyenne much?  It's not as though cheyenne 
would be sending lots of small packets to clients anyway.

I think that the performance difference won't be noticeable.

In the meantime I can use this way to shut down Cheyenne locally 
when my program exits :)

What Vista version are you using? SP1?

No SP installed ... no room on my hard drive to install :(

Gosh ... rambo is full of spam submissions.

You should ping Gabriele about that.

RAMBO ticket filled (#-4313)

Rambo is always full of spam submissions. I clean it up daily. :)

I'm guessing some elementary captcha code would cut down your work 
considerably!

It was discussed many times. I would use javascript to hide (enter) 
the form. It so easy. Just use document.write("<input name='submit' 
value='submit' type='submit'>"); where the input is as pure html. 
Better as external javascript. so the spambot parser does not see 
it without js evaluation (which are most such a spambots)

good idea, you don't even get the submits to start with   :-)

Have you tried http://softinnov.org/rebol/captcha.shtml?

We were getting tormented by spam at http://guitarz.org/pappgmembers/index.cgi
.  At one point I needed an immediate bandaid, so temporarily added 
a several-line cgi that just told the user to type "pappg" as the 
password, and then checked that they entered it correctly.  We've 
never had another problem since :)  Makes me think that a catchpa 
would handle a lot of grief.

You need a variety of techniques to stop all the spambots (and the 
human-assisted spambots).

Another technique is to have a hidden (by CSS) field, that humans 
don't see. If it comes back with a (changed) value, then most probably 
a bot is at work.

Our bots weren't the brightest :)

Sunanda, cute trick (as long as on mobile devices the CSS is not 
thrown away , which happens more and more now a days).

I suggested in the past a REBOL based question.

something which requires natural language interpretation.

Graham: except for scanning for actual legit tickets, it takes me 
a couple seconds to delete those (a few keypresses after logging 
in to rebol.net), so it's not much of an issue. i have to log in 
to rebol.net daily anyway in order to log in to mail.rebol.net (only 
accessible from there) and check the free space (only ~1GB left on 
the disk). so we'd have to solve both problems at once for me to 
not have to worry about those machines. :)

If you prevented those spam tickets, you wouldn't have to worry about 
space!  :)

www.rebol.net and mail.rebol.net are different machines. it's not 
the rambo spam that's filling mail :)

Reichart -- part of the hidden text needs to be a label that says 
something like "please leave this blank" Then nothing can go wrong 
.... :-)

Oops -- Sorry, DocKimbel. We're off-topic here.

There is already a separate (and less public) group for this topic.....If 
we have more to say, let's continue in:
    Bad Bots

I have a very easy trick that works for preventing spam in forms 
but it needs aiax, no captcha, nothing to enter, ping me if interested

I was just reading about SCGI today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Common_Gateway_Interface
Would there be an advantage to implementing this in Cheyenne?