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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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Graham 18-Aug-2009 [5417] | Sometimes I think that Chyenne is disrupting the fabric of reality. I can comment out lines of code, and they still execute ... for a while and then they stop. As though somewhere code is being cached somehow. |
Robert 18-Aug-2009 [5418] | Can you all please "document" those finding in the Cheyenne Wiki? This should build a collection of tipps & tricks over time. |
Dockimbel 18-Aug-2009 [5419] | Graham: the sample code above is a way of caching code in memory. It won't change unless you restart the process. |
Graham 18-Aug-2009 [5420] | I'm not doing that for this particular problematic code .. it's just being executed off the drive |
Dockimbel 18-Aug-2009 [5421x2] | Btw, running Cheyenne with the -w 0 option is a good way to avoid code caching effects. |
(for debugging only) | |
Robert 18-Aug-2009 [5423x5] | I have a strange error message I don't have a clue where it is coming from. |
10/7-15:13:14.250992-[RSP] ##RSP Script Error: URL = yogalinks.rsp?rest=addtocart File = /var/www/cheyenne/yogalinks.rsp ** Script Error : Invalid argument: o ** Where: to-integer ** Near: [to integer! :value] Request = make object! [ headers: [Host "www.yogalinks.eu" User-Agent {Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_7; de-de) AppleWebKit/525.28.3 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ve status-line: #{ 504F535420796F67616C696E6B732E7273703F726573743D616464746F636172 7420485454502F312E300D0A } method: 'POST url: "yogalinks.rsp?rest=addtocart" content: #{ 70726F647563745F69643D596F67616D617425323045636F25323050726F2671 75616E746974793D6F26636F6C6F723D626F72646561757825324667726175 } path: "/" target: "yogalinks.rsp" arg: "rest=addtocart" ext: '.rsp version: none file: %/var/www/cheyenne/yogalinks.rsp script-name: none ] | |
From trace.log | |
It seems cheyenne got somehow stucked after a longer running period. Restarting did solve the problem. | |
Could be something where sessions/ session variables are not reset in all cases. | |
Graham 18-Aug-2009 [5428] | why is cheyenne inside your www directory? |
Dockimbel 18-Aug-2009 [5429x2] | About your error, it's caused by an invalid argument passed in POST data : quantity=o (o instead of 0). Are you validating parameters sent by client using RSP 'validate function or your own one? |
Somehow stucked : I need more details to give you a diagnosis (Does the server respond to static requests? Does it generates any useful info in logs files,...). I have several Cheyenne instances with heavy RSP webapps running for months without any need for restarting. | |
Will 18-Aug-2009 [5431] | Cheyenne is very powerful and very stable. It is also very sensible, so you have to take care much of what you do, I have also many instances serving millions hits per month, no problem at all 8) |
Dockimbel 18-Aug-2009 [5432x2] | RSP scripts requires carefull coding pratices, that's the (small) price to pay for performances. That's why user feedback is important, to be able to improve RSP engine resistance to user's (sometimes bad) practices. |
Good documentation would be also a good help, I'm not a great documentation writer, but gathering the hints, tips and info from here to fill the wiki is the way to go. | |
Henrik 18-Aug-2009 [5434] | how is the web based configuration page going? |
Dockimbel 18-Aug-2009 [5435] | No progress since a year at least, due to other priorities. But I still plan to make one before the end of this year. |
Henrik 18-Aug-2009 [5436] | alright. will attempt to upgrade to the latest cheyenne soon, so I can get back to some much needed web work. |
Graham 18-Aug-2009 [5437x2] | Henrik ....it's just a svn checkout. takes a few mins. |
doc "improve RSP engine resistance to user's (sometimes bad) practices." ... I think that means me! | |
Henrik 18-Aug-2009 [5439x2] | hmm.. is there an easy way to check which version I'm running, for example through RSP? |
figured it out, however it would be nice to see which one it is. | |
Graham 18-Aug-2009 [5441x3] | How ? |
Doc has a web control panel on the back burner ... so maybe that information will be there. | |
I've updated my cheyenne.exe binary to use my prot-http.r so that you can do PUT, DELETE, GET with read/custom etc. | |
Dockimbel 18-Aug-2009 [5444x2] | Graham, not only you, but that's a good thing. :-) Cheyenne would have never become as solid as it is today without your and others help. |
Henrik: on Windows, you have a help message when the mouse pointer is over Cheyenne's tray icon. From RSP script, just use : >> p: open http://localhost >> p/locals/headers/server == "Cheyenne/0.9.20" | |
Henrik 18-Aug-2009 [5446] | ok, thanks |
Graham 18-Aug-2009 [5447] | Will, are you familiar with how to use Cheyenne's logging functions from within a rsp script? |
Will 18-Aug-2009 [5448] | not sure what you mean, rsp-log which is deprecated in latest version? |
Graham 18-Aug-2009 [5449x6] | found it .. can use ?? to log to the trace.log |
This is really really strange. | |
I have a rsp page called creategoogledoc.rsp ... I click on it once, and the I get my document created. Click on it again and the rsp script is not executed ( looking from the trace ) but I still get taken to the googledoc page where I previousl y created the document. It's as though the browser is caching my request and executing it locally without hitting the server | |
Arrrggg.... it's all caused by Chrome. Switching to FF and the problem goes away! | |
And here I was looking for some type of caching occuring in Cheyenne or my RSP pages | |
I wonder if there is anything on the cheyenne side that can stop this behaviour? | |
Will 18-Aug-2009 [5455] | rsp pages should not be cached by default by any browser. Do you have firebug in FF can you look at the header fo the response an see if there is any difference between the two requests? wireshark or tcpflow can be used to look at headers as well |
amacleod 19-Aug-2009 [5456] | I was having similar cashing problems with Chrome...I could not getr it to display a changed/updated rsp page. I had to close out. |
Graham 19-Aug-2009 [5457x2] | interesting |
If this only occurs with Chrome and RSP ... maybe there is something that can be done. | |
Sunanda 19-Aug-2009 [5459] | Google Chrome has some badly broken logic when it comes to obeying cache-control headers. |
Graham 19-Aug-2009 [5460] | Got a link to this ? |
Sunanda 19-Aug-2009 [5461] | Here's someone else banging their head against chrome's caching logic: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/559984/getting-confused-about-expires-headers-when-testing-in-chrome |
Graham 19-Aug-2009 [5462x2] | That appears to be saying that Chrome is not caching .... |
here the problem appears to be that Chrome is heavily caching. | |
Sunanda 19-Aug-2009 [5464] | Lots of other people seeing overheavy Chrome caching, eg: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=77a9194da602bc00&hl=en |
Graham 19-Aug-2009 [5465x2] | I've created a youtube video showing what is happening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANgSrOuDncE |
I'm using BB FlashBack Express 2 because it can upload directly to youtube ..and it seems to be free :) | |
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