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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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Graham 16-Oct-2009 [6290] | Maybe I could access mail functions that way instead of via rsp ? |
Dockimbel 16-Oct-2009 [6291] | It should be possible. |
Graham 16-Oct-2009 [6292] | and feasible? |
Dockimbel 16-Oct-2009 [6293x6] | http://softinnov.org/tmp/rmc.zip |
It will be harder than I first thought. RMC relies on worker processes to execute code, so it doesn't have access to main process. | |
Code is 7 years old, not even sure that it will work out of the box with current UniServe. | |
Btw, you might have a look in UniServe/clients/rconsole.r. It should be easier I think, to modify this script for your needs than RMC. | |
Humm...RSP's send-email function is in RSP space (worker process). It will be difficult to access it directly without going through HTTP. | |
I'm afraid that the only simple way is to go through http://localhost/email.rsp | |
Graham 16-Oct-2009 [6299] | How do worker processes differ from the main process? |
Dockimbel 16-Oct-2009 [6300] | main process = Cheyenne/UniServe worker process = client of UniServe, no server. |
Graham 16-Oct-2009 [6301] | Are database (ODBC) requests serialized when using RSP ? |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [6302x2] | Doc, I have a question, and possibly a suggestion based on the answer: is there a way to tell cheyenne to HALT when it finds ANY config error? I have been having a lot of problems that where due to the config not being ok and me not seeing the (shy) error message... currently, cheyenne starts and its in an invalid state ultimately doomed to failure and without a clear way to determine what's going on when the requests do strange stuff. |
although HALTing is mean, it also ensures your server is stable and you are forced to fix the config. | |
Dockimbel 17-Oct-2009 [6304] | No way currently, it's a pending issue. The policy to apply is not that simple, I may agree on halting when the server starts but how to handle the case when you reload config when the server is already up and running? I would prefer the server to keep running with the previous config file rather than halting. I'd like to handle the config error loading case in a consistent way if possible. |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [6305x2] | I agree, but its mainly on initial start where it bites you the most. cause when you are doing development, you'll edit the config and re-start the server anyways to be sure its ok. right now its easy to miss... and I've lost some time debugging issues which where simply caused by the config not having been updated according new options or changed resources. |
one question, does reloading the config also reload the mods? | |
Dockimbel 17-Oct-2009 [6307x2] | It restarts the mods (calling mod/on-reload and mod/on-reloaded events) but it doesn't reload them from disk. |
mod/on-started is also invoked during that restart. | |
Will 17-Oct-2009 [6309] | Caching service for Cheyenne http://reboot.ch/rebol/cache.r |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [6310x3] | how does it work? |
sorry I jumped the gun a bit hehe... firefox showed it without new line... but I'm looking at the source with newlines now.. | |
can this be used outside of rsp? | |
Will 17-Oct-2009 [6313x2] | sure |
changed page to text/plain .. 8) | |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [6315x5] | hehe |
I have pretty steep requirements for the remark caching engine, but I'm gearing it towards long-term file caching, I was defering any RAM cache to a later date... funny how you pop up with such a thing right now :-) | |
I'd need a /time refinement returning what the date of the cache entry is for sure. cause many cache conditions are time based in remark. | |
is that something which can be added to your service? | |
if so, I'd be very tempted to use it pretty soon. within a week probably. | |
Will 17-Oct-2009 [6320x2] | can be done easly, source is in your hand , do whatever you want with it, sorry I have no time this week and I see no use of timestamps in rsp usage, but if I get at least one more same request I will add it 8) |
also I'm wondering if compression should be an option, for small values it is an overhead.. | |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [6322x3] | it would be very usefull for me... the cache engine may actually cache the whole page if some cache keywords are at the top and bottom of a page |
ahh, ok, I saw it the other way round... it always caches in it current form... | |
(after looking quickly at the source) | |
Will 17-Oct-2009 [6325] | the cache service check for the expiration itself |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [6326] | in remark there is no need for an expiration... the whole engine knows if something has been refreshed, based on your conditions. |
Will 17-Oct-2009 [6327x2] | you give it a time to live and a block if its expired, the block get executed and cache updated |
I'm not going to compete with remark, but I'll be gladd to look at it once you release it 8) | |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [6329x3] | ah that's a nifty idea. :-) |
I want to use anything that is out there... your service is a low-level construct I can surely leverage... I'll probably add a few refinements to it when I finish the caching engine... right now I'm dealing in other lower-level remark internals. | |
(self modifying parse rules which adapt while parsing the file... a lot of fun :-) | |
Will 17-Oct-2009 [6332] | the kind of stuff I'will never understand.. 8P |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [6333] | hehe... its taken me years of practice to get at this point. I'm not a "natural" parse guy. |
Graham 18-Oct-2009 [6334x3] | I wonder if this scenario makes sense. |
Instead of having a complicated cheyenne/rugby hybrid ... we just use the rsp engine. When the first client starts up, it uploads all the necessary sources for the functions it needs. cheyenne then makes all these functions available to its worker processes ( perhaps storing the sources in its virtual disk cache ... | |
Subsquent clients can then use these functions via rsp .. | |
xavier 18-Oct-2009 [6337] | that lead to a enormous security problem no ? |
Graham 18-Oct-2009 [6338] | Not if you secure the client. |
amacleod 18-Oct-2009 [6339] | Getting an error trying to get php running with cheyenne. Works fine on xp pro but on mt win server 2003 box I get a dialog saying "apppication is configed incorrectly. Reinstall may fix..." (I get this when I try to run php from the php icon. In xp pro I would get the dos box indicating that is was running) I know its nothing to do with cheyenne but has anyone seen this... php is not installed |
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