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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

Terry
22-Dec-2009
[6640]
Kaj, "long life" is a relative term.  I suppose it depends on the 
service. If i build a service that lets you access my killer app, 
but say "you need to use Chrome" then 'long life'  may be irrelevant.
Kaj
22-Dec-2009
[6641x3]
To you, but Comet will live happily ever after. :-) Anyway, I know 
what you mean
The point is that there can be no killer app targeting just a few 
percent of the market
Still, I'm now considering the same as you. If I bundle Chrome with 
Syllable, by the time I am progressing with a few web apps, web sockets 
may have penetrated far enough to not bother with Comet
Graham
22-Dec-2009
[6644x9]
I've got this really odd situation ... I have Cheyenne and the rebol 
micro web server both running.  Cheyenne is on 8002, and MWS on 8001.
Both share the www directory.

at times I access a file and I get a 404 from Cheyenne but the MWS 
can find the file!
It's as though Cheyenne is looking elsewhere ...
my httpd.cfg root-dir is pointing correctly to the right directory, 
and I have an exception for cheyenne.exe in the windows firewall.
I never saw this issue under Window XP, or Vista and I'm running 
on Windows 7 Professional.
Looks like my application is writing files to a hidden directory 
somewhere which the MWS can see, but Cheyenne can't see.
Must be some type of windows redirection
or UAC virtualization
So, not a Cheyenne issue ...
Cheyenne is looking in the right place,  but my app writes are being 
redirected somewhere else.
Dockimbel
22-Dec-2009
[6653]
Found a cool example for future Cheyenne web sockets : http://www.onlinegames.com/basketball/
Steeve
22-Dec-2009
[6654x2]
i'm bad at this Game
Did you created a group Dock ? perhaps i can beat you
Kaj
22-Dec-2009
[6656]
Graham, maybe that's Windows security thinking it knows better than 
you, like Vista eating AltME's files?
Dockimbel
22-Dec-2009
[6657x2]
The nice part is playing live against ~2000 other players (with realtime 
classification between players).
My best score is 120.
Steeve
22-Dec-2009
[6659x2]
Wow, you're good
stucked at 1000 more or less
Dockimbel
22-Dec-2009
[6661]
I'm not even in the top 100. ;-)
Steeve
22-Dec-2009
[6662]
Rebol group
http://www.onlinegames.com/basketball/?2oisqn74tz
Kaj
22-Dec-2009
[6663]
Won't work on Linux
Dockimbel
22-Dec-2009
[6664x2]
Steeve: "Due to server load private Group Contests have temporarily 
been disabled (sorry)"
Graham: I've upgraded Cheyenne in SVN with an improved logging of 
translated filename from URL. That should help you see what's going 
wrong.
Steeve
22-Dec-2009
[6666]
349
Dockimbel
22-Dec-2009
[6667x2]
That should make you the winner. :-)
Was that your score or your position?
Steeve
22-Dec-2009
[6669]
score
Dockimbel
22-Dec-2009
[6670]
Then you've earned the cup!
Steeve
22-Dec-2009
[6671x2]
i mean, position in the last game
my best position
Graham
22-Dec-2009
[6673]
Doc .. thanks
Will
23-Dec-2009
[6674]
did anyone try the cache service? any suggestions? http://reboot.ch/rebol/cache.r
Robert
23-Dec-2009
[6675]
SVN: Can someone give me a short note how to best get the SVN version 
into a "production environment"? Is it one file I can just run on 
the server? Or do I need to build it myself somehow?
Graham
23-Dec-2009
[6676x2]
What's it best used for?
Just use a svn client to download the repository, run the source 
version once, and then encap it.
Dockimbel
23-Dec-2009
[6678]
SVN r44 - FIX: same webapp virtual name can now be used in different 
virtual hosts.

This should fix the issue raised by Janko.
Terry
23-Dec-2009
[6679x5]
Using Cheyenne and websockets as a backend to Flash, Silverlight 
etc would have it's merits as well.
If there's one thing I always have running on my monitor, it's the 
browser. I don't see much need for another GUI, including /view
I can envision a day when everything will have an "always on" connection 
with everything else that is important.. probably via websockets. 
 ie: my email, chats, voicemails pushed to me wherever i am, and 
on whatever device. The ability to do this is nothing new (SOAP, 
XML-RPC etc), but what is missing is a homogenous catalyst... the 
webserver seems the most likely candidate, as they are the de-facto 
interface to the world's DBs. This is my vision for Cheyenne, that 
of an Uber-server.
Oh, and LFReD driving Cheyenne's business logic :)
Hey Doc, have you seen Node?
http://nodejs.org/#about
Dockimbel
23-Dec-2009
[6684]
I looked at Node a few days ago, interesting choice to see JS at 
server-side. I guess that the included 8k lines of C code help a 
lot having a decent speed. ;-)
Kaj
23-Dec-2009
[6685]
Isn't that the included V8 VM?
Dockimbel
23-Dec-2009
[6686x2]
From Node's sources, no trace of V8 VM, it's the Node network and 
event engine that's built in C for the most part.
It's like if the whole Cheyenne low-level layer (UniServe) was 100% 
built in C.
Kaj
23-Dec-2009
[6688]
Interesting :-)
Terry
23-Dec-2009
[6689]
I thought node was Python?