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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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Dockimbel 22-Dec-2009 [6658] | My best score is 120. |
Steeve 22-Dec-2009 [6659x2] | Wow, you're good |
stucked at 1000 more or less | |
Dockimbel 22-Dec-2009 [6661] | I'm not even in the top 100. ;-) |
Steeve 22-Dec-2009 [6662] | Rebol group http://www.onlinegames.com/basketball/?2oisqn74tz |
Kaj 22-Dec-2009 [6663] | Won't work on Linux |
Dockimbel 22-Dec-2009 [6664x2] | Steeve: "Due to server load private Group Contests have temporarily been disabled (sorry)" |
Graham: I've upgraded Cheyenne in SVN with an improved logging of translated filename from URL. That should help you see what's going wrong. | |
Steeve 22-Dec-2009 [6666] | 349 |
Dockimbel 22-Dec-2009 [6667x2] | That should make you the winner. :-) |
Was that your score or your position? | |
Steeve 22-Dec-2009 [6669] | score |
Dockimbel 22-Dec-2009 [6670] | Then you've earned the cup! |
Steeve 22-Dec-2009 [6671x2] | i mean, position in the last game |
my best position | |
Graham 22-Dec-2009 [6673] | Doc .. thanks |
Will 23-Dec-2009 [6674] | did anyone try the cache service? any suggestions? http://reboot.ch/rebol/cache.r |
Robert 23-Dec-2009 [6675] | SVN: Can someone give me a short note how to best get the SVN version into a "production environment"? Is it one file I can just run on the server? Or do I need to build it myself somehow? |
Graham 23-Dec-2009 [6676x2] | What's it best used for? |
Just use a svn client to download the repository, run the source version once, and then encap it. | |
Dockimbel 23-Dec-2009 [6678] | SVN r44 - FIX: same webapp virtual name can now be used in different virtual hosts. This should fix the issue raised by Janko. |
Terry 23-Dec-2009 [6679x5] | Using Cheyenne and websockets as a backend to Flash, Silverlight etc would have it's merits as well. |
If there's one thing I always have running on my monitor, it's the browser. I don't see much need for another GUI, including /view | |
I can envision a day when everything will have an "always on" connection with everything else that is important.. probably via websockets. ie: my email, chats, voicemails pushed to me wherever i am, and on whatever device. The ability to do this is nothing new (SOAP, XML-RPC etc), but what is missing is a homogenous catalyst... the webserver seems the most likely candidate, as they are the de-facto interface to the world's DBs. This is my vision for Cheyenne, that of an Uber-server. | |
Oh, and LFReD driving Cheyenne's business logic :) | |
Hey Doc, have you seen Node? http://nodejs.org/#about | |
Dockimbel 23-Dec-2009 [6684] | I looked at Node a few days ago, interesting choice to see JS at server-side. I guess that the included 8k lines of C code help a lot having a decent speed. ;-) |
Kaj 23-Dec-2009 [6685] | Isn't that the included V8 VM? |
Dockimbel 23-Dec-2009 [6686x2] | From Node's sources, no trace of V8 VM, it's the Node network and event engine that's built in C for the most part. |
It's like if the whole Cheyenne low-level layer (UniServe) was 100% built in C. | |
Kaj 23-Dec-2009 [6688] | Interesting :-) |
Terry 23-Dec-2009 [6689] | I thought node was Python? |
Dockimbel 24-Dec-2009 [6690] | FYI: I've implemented the web socket protocol in Cheyenne last night (not released yet) but I still need to figure out how to properly interface incoming data frames with the RSP engine. |
Kaj 24-Dec-2009 [6691] | That's really great! |
Gregg 24-Dec-2009 [6692] | Very cool Doc. |
Graham 24-Dec-2009 [6693] | Is there a dummies for web sockets to explain what this does? |
Kaj 24-Dec-2009 [6694x3] | It's the evolutionary endpoint of Comet. It throws in special server and client support to enable them to keep an open, stateful connection, by switching an HTTP connection to what is effectively a lower level TCP connection |
So it creates a bidirectional channel with only one connection, with good chances of penetrating firewalls | |
Cleans up the mess of the collection of hacks that is Comet | |
Graham 24-Dec-2009 [6697x4] | What's the reason why it should be able to penetrate firewalls? |
Not familiar with Comet .. except as the name of my dog :) | |
So, if it opens a stateful connection, then I guess it is less able to scale to lots of users | |
And are people then running BEEP over web sockets? | |
Kaj 24-Dec-2009 [6701x4] | It opens up the possibility to do similar things, yes, while still being able to fool firewalls |
It has a good chance of fooling the firewalls because it starts as a normal HTTP connection | |
Since it's being standardised as web technology, there will be a big social barrier for firewalls to start blocking it | |
As a continuous connection, it's less scalable than regular HTTP, yes, but it's more scalable than Comet, which needs two connections for bidirectional communication, and other hacks | |
Terry 24-Dec-2009 [6705] | It scales better, as only a single connection is used.. in fact, Google is pushing it with Chrome for that very reason. |
Kaj 24-Dec-2009 [6706] | Comet is a diverse collection of hacks to create longer-term connections with Ajax |
Terry 24-Dec-2009 [6707] | after the initial http handshake, there's no http headers included |
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