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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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Kaj 8-May-2010 [8197] | There are several servers in there that are not tiny weight, pretty much in the ball park of Cheyenne, if you were look at code size and handling |
Dockimbel 8-May-2010 [8198] | Graham: a few links about your question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security#Support_for_name-based_virtual_servers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication SNI is in stunnel's todo list: http://stunnel.mirt.net/?page=todo_sdf |
Kaj 8-May-2010 [8199] | It also says that NginX supports it, so that may be a better option than STunnel |
Graham 8-May-2010 [8200x3] | Definitive information! Great ... I shall look at NginX |
http://www.nginx.org/en/docs/http/configuring_https_servers.html at the bottom talks about SNI support | |
Anyone got some quick instructions on how to use Nginx as a proxy for Cheyenne? | |
Oldes 9-May-2010 [8203x2] | I use something like this in my nginx config: location ~ \.(rsp|cgi)$ { proxy_pass http://lucya.desajn.web:8080; proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for; proxy_set_header X-URI $request_uri; proxy_set_header if-modified-since $http_if_modified_since; client_max_body_size 10m; client_body_buffer_size 128k; proxy_connect_timeout 90; proxy_send_timeout 90; proxy_read_timeout 90; proxy_buffer_size 4k; proxy_buffers 4 32k; proxy_busy_buffers_size 64k; proxy_temp_file_write_size 64k; } |
I use nginx as a frontend server and cheyenne as a backend where Cheyenne ca cretate static pages served by nginx... My motto for thic combo is: where west meets east as its American-Russian connection:) | |
Graham 9-May-2010 [8205] | Thanks... now anyone setup https with SNI ? :) |
Oldes 9-May-2010 [8206] | I never tryied... but maybe you can try something like that http://kbeezie.com/view/configuring-sni-with-nginx/ |
Graham 9-May-2010 [8207] | ok .. thanks |
Dockimbel 9-May-2010 [8208] | Oldes: would it help if X-Real-IP header was used by Cheyenne to store the real client IP in HTTP logs? I was thinking about addind an option to tell Cheyenne that a HTTP header is carrying the real IP. |
Robert 9-May-2010 [8209] | I get an "confirm" error from a RSP page that tries to delete a local file. How can I do this? |
Dockimbel 9-May-2010 [8210] | What do you get when trying to delete this file from console launched with the same uid/gid than Cheyenne? |
Robert 9-May-2010 [8211x2] | I start cheyenne as root (not recommended I know but...). So this shouldn't be a problem. |
I have the feeling that the security dialog is jumping in... but I use the Linux SDK version. | |
Dockimbel 9-May-2010 [8213] | Are you using your own encapped Cheyenne binary? |
Kaj 9-May-2010 [8214x9] | I found a series of problems due to which switching to a non-root user and group doesn't work |
The primary reason was that, although the 'library interface component was supposed to be included in R2.7.7, it is in View but not in Core, at least in the Linux version | |
This makes Cheyenne run with a primitive configuration without an advanced system interface | |
I asked in RebDev to fix this in R2.7.8 | |
Trying with View only works when the window environment is started, even when X11 is installed on a machine, so this is game over for headless servers | |
The to do list for 2.7.8 mentions fixing the related error message, so I suspect Carl has found that this doesn't work when he briefly tried to run Cheyenne on his new server | |
At least it can be tested with X11 running. Then I find that Cheyenne searches for the GNU C library in several places, but not in the place where Syllable Server has it. Here's a patch to misc/unix.r that fixes this for both Syllable and GoboLinux (the new version that's currently in development): | |
--- unix.r.original 2010-05-09 03:22:33.000000000 +0200 +++ unix.r 2010-05-10 00:36:14.000000000 +0200 @@ -5,6 +5,8 @@ exists? libc: %libc.so.6 exists? libc: %/lib32/libc.so.6 exists? libc: %/lib/libc.so.6 + exists? libc: %/System/Index/lib/libc.so.6 ; GoboLinux package + exists? libc: %/system/index/framework/libraries/libc.so.6 ; Syllable exists? libc: %/lib/libc.so.5 ] libc: load/library libc | |
After that I found several more problems that make user switching unusable. Eventually I concluded that a rewrite of mod-userdir is necessary. I'm working on that and will post a patch after testing | |
Dockimbel 10-May-2010 [8223] | Kaj: thanks, this mode has never been deeply tested. I'm applying your patch in svn right now. |
Robert 10-May-2010 [8224] | Doc, no I'm using cheyenne0920 version (maybe quite old but it works). |
Dockimbel 10-May-2010 [8225x2] | Cheyenne binaries are encapped with [secure none] header to avoid such issues. I wonder if the LAUNCH native used to fork worker processes is correctly transmitting boot flags to child processes. |
You should try encapping latest version from SVN with your SDK. Let me know if it fixes or not your issue. | |
Kaj 10-May-2010 [8227x14] | Here's my patch to mods/mod-userdir.r: |
--- mod-userdir.r.original 2010-05-09 19:28:10.000000000 +0200 +++ mod-userdir.r 2010-05-11 00:45:24.000000000 +0200 @@ -12,40 +12,81 @@ on-started: does [do boot-code] on-reload: does [clear boot-code] - get-ugid: func [name [string!] /local file uid gid][ - if none? attempt [file: read %/etc/passwd][ + get-ugid: func [name [string!] /local file line uid gid][ + unless attempt [file: read/lines %/etc/passwd][ log/error "accessing /etc/passwd failed" return none ] - unless parse/all file [ - thru name 2 [thru col] - copy uid to col skip - copy gid to col - to end - ][ - log/error "reading /etc/passwd failed" + foreach line file [ + if all [line: find/case/match line name col = first line][ + return either parse/all next line [ + thru col + copy uid to col skip + copy gid to col + to end + ][ + reduce [to-integer uid to-integer gid] + ][ + log/error "invalid format reading /etc/passwd !" + none + ] + ] + ] + log/error "user not found in /etc/passwd" + none + ] + + get-gid: func [name [string!] /local file line gid][ + unless attempt [file: read/lines %/etc/group][ + log/error "accessing /etc/group failed" return none ] - reduce [to-integer uid to-integer gid] + foreach line file [ + if all [line: find/case/match line name col = first line][ + return either parse/all next line [ + thru col + copy gid to col + to end + ][ + to-integer gid + ][ + log/error "invalid format reading /etc/group !" + none + ] + ] + ] + log/error "group not found in /etc/group" + none ] - change-id: func [id [word! integer!] /user /group][ - if word? id [ - if none? id: get-ugid mold id [return none] - id: pick id to-logic user + change-id: func [id [string! integer!] /user /group /local gid][ + either string? id [ + unless id: get-ugid id [return none] + set [id gid] id + ][ + gid: id ] - either user [ + if group [setgid gid] + if user [ ;logger/file.log: join logger/file ["-" id %.log] setuid id - ][setgid id] + ] + ] + + change-gid: func [id [string! integer!]][ + if string? id [ + unless id: get-gid id [return none] + ] + setgid id ] words: [ user: [word! | integer!] in globals do [ - repend boot-code ['change-id/user to-lit-word args/1] + repend boot-code either word? args/1 [['change-id/user/group mold args/1]] [['change-id/user args/1]] ] group: [word! | integer!] in globals do [ - repend boot-code ['change-id/group to-lit-word args/1] + unless empty? boot-code [change boot-code [change-id/user]] + insert boot-code reduce ['change-gid either word? args/1 [mold args/1][args/1]] ] ] ] \ No newline at end of file | |
The biggest problem was that it was switching the user and then the group - but after switching the user away from root, you have just given away your right to switch your group. So this never worked, and with the processes still having the group root, they could still access almost everything on a system, so there was hardly improved security | |
This is hard to see in the standard process list on Linux, because you have to use ps u -G <group>. These errors are also not logged | |
The new code reverses this order to make it work | |
IDs that you specified were looked up in the user file - also if you specified the group. Although in most cases on most systems, user names have a matching group name with the same number, this is clearly wrong | |
Specifying just the user already looked up the group number of the user, but this was not used for the group setting. As said above, it's not very meaningful to only change the user ID away from root, so now specifying only a user changes both the user ID and the group ID to the IDs corresponding to the user | |
I'm not sure how meaningful it is to also specify a separate group (different from the group of the user), but if you do it should be looked up in the group file instead of the users file, so now it does that | |
The users and groups files are line oriented, but they were searched as a whole with PARSE. This can easily go wrong, for example if the name appears elsewhere in the file, for example in the comment field. They're now searched line by line | |
I'm not sure if capitalised user names are allowed on Unix (traditionally not), but they would be case sensitive, so I also made this search case sensitive | |
The format for the configuration file allows numbers for the specified user and group IDs, and this is indeed useful, but they weren't supported in the processing functions. They are now | |
If you specify a number for the user ID, it is not used for setting the group, because it is not known if those numbers correspond | |
In general, the contained functions are quite a bit more flexible now | |
Well, I never thought I would be hacking a web server, so this is pretty cool, and Cheyenne makes it very easy :-) | |
Dockimbel 11-May-2010 [8241] | Kaj, thanks for this very usefull work, I'll review your patch tonight. |
Kaj 11-May-2010 [8242] | Great |
Dockimbel 11-May-2010 [8243] | Seems you've solved a lot of issues there. |
Kaj 11-May-2010 [8244] | Yeah, it was worth spending some time on it |
Dockimbel 11-May-2010 [8245x2] | Sure, that's a significant improvement for Cheyenne. |
Mod-userdir will be finally usable! | |
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