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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

Kaj
8-Dec-2010
[9351]
It's about automatic quits by the SECURE functionality
Steeve
9-Dec-2010
[9352]
yeah, and you can catch it as an error. It stay relevant.
Kaj
9-Dec-2010
[9353]
Yeah, but you can't analyse the error, because you always get 101
Steeve
9-Dec-2010
[9354x2]
Are you sure ? accordingly the doc, we got :

>> secure [eval [throw 50000]]
>> loop 100000 [next "test"]
** Access error: security violation: eval
** Where: loop
** Near: loop 100000 [next "test"]


So, you can decipher the error message and send back the appropriate 
quit/return code
security violation: eval
BrianH
9-Dec-2010
[9356]
You can also do it in a try statement and check the error codes.
Kaj
9-Dec-2010
[9357]
Ah, seems this limitation only applies then if you let R3 quit without 
further processing
AdrianS
10-Dec-2010
[9358]
Bad news - looks like WebSockets will be disabled in Firefox 4 due 
to security concerns.


http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Bludice/~3/S6Lw15UdA2I/websocket-security
Andreas
10-Dec-2010
[9359]
Same in Chrome: http://codereview.chromium.org/5643005/
Kaj
10-Dec-2010
[9360]
Aargh
Dockimbel
10-Dec-2010
[9361]
I saw the news yesterday for FF4. The badly written RFC for ws was 
alarming since the beginning, this kind of design defect doesn't 
surprise me much, but it's such a waste...I hope the new CONNECT-based 
workaround will be adopted rapidly.
Kaj
10-Dec-2010
[9362]
Google can't hire designers as good as work for REBOL for free ;-)
nve
18-Dec-2010
[9363]
When can we exepect Cheyenne like NGINX ? What is missing ? Cheyenne 
is the best product to promote REBOL !?
Oldes
18-Dec-2010
[9364]
Why? I'm using Cheyenne with Nginx... Nginx for serving static content, 
dynamic by Cheyenne. I use slogan:  "when east meets west".
nve
18-Dec-2010
[9365]
Ok,  they claimed that "Nginx now hosts nearly 6.55% (13.5M) of all 
domains worldwide."
When for Cheyenne ?
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9366]
There's a possibility that users might require certificates to access 
my app ... can that be done with Cheyenne and something else?
Andreas
18-Dec-2010
[9367]
Client certificates?
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9368]
So, what would you have to use server side to manage and authenticate 
the certificates?
Andreas
18-Dec-2010
[9369]
Sorry, that was a question, not a suggestion. Do you actually want 
to authenticate based on client certificates?
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9370]
Yes
Dockimbel
18-Dec-2010
[9371]
Use SSL: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/securitymonkey/howto-securing-a-website-with-client-ssl-certificates-11500
Oldes
18-Dec-2010
[9372]
Or use Nginx as a reverse proxy to Cheyenne.
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9373x5]
So, I don't need Apache then?
I'm currently using Cheyenne ... and stunnel to provide SSL
Looks like I could still use stunnel .. and put all the certificates 
in a directory and disconnect users who don't present a certificate
I might have a few hundred users ... so hopefully this can cope.
So, I guess I'm asking if anyone has experience with this and was 
it straight forward?
Kaj
18-Dec-2010
[9378]
Hundred users total, or concurrently?
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9379x2]
total
I'm looking to implement a nationwide registry for patients taking 
biologics
Kaj
18-Dec-2010
[9381]
Shouldn't be much of a problem performance wise
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9382]
worst case scenario - 60 concurrent users
Kaj
18-Dec-2010
[9383]
How many requests would they make within a minute?
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9384]
I wouldn't have thought that many ... of course I'm just guessing!
Kaj
18-Dec-2010
[9385x2]
Well, that determines your scalability concerns
60 Concurrent users is a lot - except if they're idling for five 
minutes between every request
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9387x3]
I guess I can just get a bigger VM if it comes down to it ... :) 
 Yes, I expect they'll be idling most of the time
So, I guess the next question is .. how does one determine if the 
server is overloaded?
read the logs and ??
Kaj
18-Dec-2010
[9390x2]
Your customers will be on the phone yelling at you :-)
If it's a Unix box, you use tools such as uptime, top and htop
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9392x4]
Windows 2003 server on Ec2
I gave them my cellphone so they can pay the charges for yelling 
at me!
heh... the freemed guy was asking if I can rewrite my drug interaction 
portal in php and python!
Hmm... can Magic on Apache run similar RSP code as Cheyenne ?  Wonder 
how hard it would be to port from Cheyenne to Magic
Kaj
18-Dec-2010
[9396]
Magic!'s concept is the reverse of RSP
GrahamC
18-Dec-2010
[9397x2]
reverse?
I've never used it ... just know it exists
nve
18-Dec-2010
[9399x2]
Dockimbel can give you advices.
There's QM from ChrisRG but not sure it reached a official release.