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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007

Dockimbel
10-May-2007
[1193]
Sessions are closed for tofay, ihe's doing that on purpose to make 
you go away ;-)
btiffin
10-May-2007
[1194]
That is some nice video production...
Dockimbel
10-May-2007
[1195]
today
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1196]
hey, I just eat too, so carefull with the camera :-)
Mchean
10-May-2007
[1197]
where is the video at?
Sunanda
10-May-2007
[1198]
Bye everyone.....We'll be back tomorrow.
Anton
10-May-2007
[1199x2]
not joking ?
Ok, nice work everyone.
Mchean
10-May-2007
[1201]
going out to drink? record that too
Gregg
10-May-2007
[1202]
http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/dess-capture.sdp-- but stopped for 
today it seems.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1203]
hmm, it is a pity ... wanted to hear about embedding Rebol ....
Mchean
10-May-2007
[1204]
so no recorded sessions, just live
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[1205]
there will be recordings posted later on, afaik
Henrik
10-May-2007
[1206]
mchean, there seems to be two cameras
btiffin
10-May-2007
[1207]
Well done....thanks to Sahores Conseil, again.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1208]
yes, take us to the party :-) I will connect via Skype, so we can 
virtually drink all together :-)
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[1209]
i have a few minutes of recordings that i'l post to youtube later 
on too.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1210]
hmm, good tip for skype-like rebol 3 based tool :-)
Anton
10-May-2007
[1211]
Gabriele, any answer on the transparent events question ?
btiffin
10-May-2007
[1212]
Sorry, was there any timeline on when we get our grubby little hands 
on R3?
Gregg
10-May-2007
[1213]
Thanks to all who made the feed available!
Mchean
10-May-2007
[1214]
cool thanks - wish i was in paris
Gregg
10-May-2007
[1215]
End of June or a little later Brian.
Mchean
10-May-2007
[1216]
ply carl with drinks and see what you can learn for us
btiffin
10-May-2007
[1217]
Gregg;  Thanks.  Pacing starts now....  :)
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[1218x2]
anton, not directly, if i understand what you mean by that. i guess 
that will be in the open source part, but i'm not 100% sure.
it could be something for 3.x with x > 0
Anton
10-May-2007
[1220x2]
I'll bring it up again when I actually have seen R3's View system.
:)
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1222x3]
will there be live R3 demo? ;-)
something like tryint to spawn 1000 tasks from loop in console?
ah, I forgot those are threads .... well, I suggest a refinement 
for make task. I want to choose for the task, or a thread, and task 
to be interconnected via some kind of IPC, not like launch ...
Dockimbel
10-May-2007
[1225]
IIRC, Carl said that each new task! will cost around 10Kb of memory
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1226x2]
that was not my question :-) The thing is, that when you launch 100 
thread for one process, you get just 1 time for your process, which 
you will divide to those 100 REBOL tasks = threads internally.
I wanted to know, if I can choose between tasks and threads
Dockimbel
10-May-2007
[1228]
in R3, tasks are threads
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1229x3]
imagine fast-cgi scenario, where you can choose how many instances 
of interpreter will run, and each can handle some things.
do you think it is sufficient solution then? In cheyenne, tasks are 
tasks ...
I can imagine launching e.g. 5 httpd tasks (rebol processes) each 
handling e.g. 100 connections, where 1 connection = 1 rebol task 
= 1 OS thread ...
Dockimbel
10-May-2007
[1232]
In Cheyenne, "tasks" are processes
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1233]
if it can't be scaled that way, it is imo insufficient ...
Dockimbel
10-May-2007
[1234]
R3 will help a lot in building a much better support for CGI and 
RSP in Cheyenne.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1235]
imo Carl took the easier part - used OS threads, as those can share 
data. In the case of using processes, he would have to come with 
some IPC mechanism ... That is why I asked if 'launch is still there 
....
Dockimbel
10-May-2007
[1236]
No, that's not the way Cheyenne works. All static HTTP requests are 
handled by only 1 process, the Cheyenne process. The "helper" tasks 
are only used to handle CGI or RSP scripts.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[1237x3]
part=path
Sure, but do you think that e.g. 500 connections, handled by 1 rebol 
process running 500 threads will be better performer than 5 rebol 
processes handling each 100 threads?
imo those 5 separate processes get more time from OS ...
btiffin
10-May-2007
[1240]
Doc;  Cheyenne is proving itself pretty worthy so far here at peoplecards.ca 
  Thanks.
Not delved too deep, but runs nice and smooth.
Andreas
10-May-2007
[1241]
pekr, that depends on your os :)
Dockimbel
10-May-2007
[1242]
Yes because context switching between processes is much more expensive 
than for threads