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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007
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[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1469] | please do [ move cam ] |
Brock 11-May-2007 [1470] | not to mention the guy sleeping in the foreground! |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1471] | it can't focus on the screen |
Terry 11-May-2007 [1472] | hehe |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1473] | perhaps the audience, then |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1474] | hee it works.. |
Mario 11-May-2007 [1475] | source please |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1476] | is there a prototype/demo available? or sceen shots? |
[unknown: 9] 11-May-2007 [1477] | ANy questions? |
Terry 11-May-2007 [1478] | Q. Is Rebol being delegated to the backend forever? |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1479] | Quilt user interface layout spec examples ? |
Terry 11-May-2007 [1480] | In other words, is the desktop dead? |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1481] | I certainly haven't lost sight of the desktop. I think the way forward is to improve the viewtop and then get it into the web plugin. |
Robert 11-May-2007 [1482] | Reichart looks so flat from the side... |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1483] | that's alright, we can just "enhance the image" a few times. |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1484] | viewtop is still a great concept..dont kill it.. |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1485] | Reichart..... do you want me to explain Anton how Quilt works? |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1486] | I just want to see some code snippets. |
Will 11-May-2007 [1487] | yea me too please |
Pekr 11-May-2007 [1488] | what are we talking about? Surely Quilt does not replace View, no? |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1489x2] | ok... so basically.... you have cards which are like windows, and molecules which are like widgets |
cards are generated by a "generator" which is a function that outputs html and a few small other things | |
Terry 11-May-2007 [1491] | Vive le Manifestaions |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1492x3] | it can call other functions that return the html for the molecules |
this goes to the client side... which also loads your JS file with the classes for your card and molecules | |
and then drives the ui on the client side | |
Terry 11-May-2007 [1495] | In my opinion, Rebol should FOCUS on the backend.. aka Cheynne.. data storage etc. |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1496] | then the ui just calls back the server via qtask api (blowdart) |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1497] | ok, yes, I've heard this explanation before. What are the widgets called etc. ? |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1498] | generate-content: func [ is-card content-generator cardid dimensions js-files dialog-arr args /local l_width l_height l_id l_src js-classname ] [ l_src: none if not is-card [l_id: cardid] switch content-generator [ "file.fileshare" [ obj: make quilt/ret-obj [ src: build-fileshare title: "Your files" short-title: "Files" ] quilt/add-dialog dialog-arr "fileupload" "FileShareUpload" rejoi n [ "<p>Please select a file to upload:</p>" quilt/basic-molecule/class/id { <iframe src="about:blank" style="border: none; height: 60px; width: 250px;">IFRAME not displayed!</iframe> <p style="display: none;">Uploading file... <img src="/images/Qtask- Bar-64.gif" /></p> |
Pekr 11-May-2007 [1499] | So what is Quilt in general? Sorry, was not here for the most of the presentation. Is that just Qtask infrastructure "front-end" for browser client? |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1500x2] | i'll save you most of the rest of the html there... |
either is-card [ insert tail js-files "card/FileShare.js" set [l_id l_src] framework/basic-card/floating/originX/origi nY/width/height/title/short-title/class obj/src cardid content-generator dimensions/1 dimensions/2 any [dimensions/3 "640px"] any [dimensions/4 "500px"] obj/title obj/short-title "FileShare" ] [ l_src: quilt/contextualize obj/src "FileShare" cardid ] ] ] reduce [l_id js-classname l_src] ] | |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1502] | where can we re-read Quilt information on the web? |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1503] | (not afaik, but Reichart will answer you) |
Terry 11-May-2007 [1504] | Q. Given the mashup philosophy, what, if any community support is there for javascript dialect, CSS dialect etc? |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1505] | thx Gabriele |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1506] | Q: wondering where is the money in the Quilt concept? Is it in your own applications or in the framework rights? (i missed the start of you speach..sorry) |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1507] | afaik quilt is just the ui "framework" for qtask. |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1508] | Great question ! |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1509] | ;-) |
Terry 11-May-2007 [1510] | I meant within the Rebol community.. can we work together to build browser based dialects, support? |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1511] | World of Warcraft has its own currency. Are you planning your own trading system within Qtask ? |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1512] | intresting reichart..thanks.. |
Anton 11-May-2007 [1513] | .. and Second Life. |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1514] | (btw guys, please keep in mind our time is limited ;) |
Pekr 11-May-2007 [1515x2] | but it reminded me of your doc, where you suggested to separate app logic and UI representation. I can imagine having rebol framework back-end, featuring various engines - callendaring, task management, general workflow engine etc., and API for user interface. And the client? - would be translated into web browser interface or represented by Rebol View UI. Possible? :-) |
your doc equals Gabriele's proposition on next gen Rebol's UI concept ... | |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1517] | petr, possible, but quilt does not do that, there is no dialect. |
Pekr 11-May-2007 [1518] | I think it will be better to continue here on altme .... |
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