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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007

Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1619]
devices right now
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1620]
environments session?
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1621x2]
carl showed some C code... examples of how to interface to the rebol 
library
yep
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1623]
top secret! ;-)
Volker
11-May-2007
[1624]
And we have to wait a lot weeks totouch it.. :(
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1625]
ah, will he cover rebol's library interface improvements? Are there 
any at all? ;-)
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1626]
yes..little more
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1627x2]
probably not at this point
it's all in the OS part so you can improve it yourself
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1629]
very nice imlpant carl!
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1630]
C struct for device request
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1631]
so still awfull callback support, chars, nested structs spec etc.? 
bleee :-)
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1632]
callbacks is always a hard part..
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1633]
i didn't say that. i said that's not going to be discussed now
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1634]
none would be nice ;-)
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1635x2]
and... i said that you can make it the way you want if you don't 
like how it'llbe :)
introduction to plugins now
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1637]
aaa nice...
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1638]
not sure. need to know more about plug-ins :-)
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1639]
loads dll / requestst plugin header / calls init function /loads 
any module code / resolves word symbol table / creates native functions 
/ natives dispatched via dll table
Volker
11-May-2007
[1640]
psst!
Sunanda
11-May-2007
[1641]
plug-in (in this sense) is C-code thta plugs into REBOL.....A bit 
like writing your own natives. So makes REBOL highly extensible.
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1642x2]
will use rebin but rebin is still an issue
so plugins are on hold right this moment
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1644x2]
cool, is that done already, or to be done for 3.x? where x > 0?
ah ...
Volker
11-May-2007
[1646]
Also open source part?
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1647]
Q: can any language be linked as a plugin interface?
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1648x2]
plugins themeselves can be open/closed
norman, they are a dll
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1650]
C or C++ ?
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1651x2]
if you can make a dll, you are probably fine, but of course more 
details will be available later on
C
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1653]
C is more compiliant with library calls though..
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1654]
no C++ in rebol except for AGG
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1655x3]
A great !
im happy..
so plugins are OS indepentend as i understand...
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1658]
yes. devices are os dependent.
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1659]
What about security model? we were expecting improvements for browser 
plug-in, but the same topic may concern rebol plug-ins - you can 
plug dll, which code you don't have under control?
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1660]
plugins have to be compiled as a library on each OS  dll, dso, etc.
Graham
11-May-2007
[1661]
Is rebol3 going to be compatible with beer?
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1662]
what is the core size of a minimal plugin ?
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1663]
Rebolinth - I doubt plug-ins are OS independent ...
Terry
11-May-2007
[1664]
Let the religious wars begin :)
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1665]
graham, i'm not sure i understand the question. will it run the current 
beer? no. can you port beer to it? yes.
Graham
11-May-2007
[1666]
Not me :(
Anton
11-May-2007
[1667]
Thankyou again Carl !
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1668]
minimal plugin size: between 4-8k depending on your compiler