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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007

Anton
11-May-2007
[2067]
They said the system requires modern CPUs because it takes more number 
crunching. (from memory about an order of magnitude more than relational 
databases.)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2068]
notice he sais "Find" not "Search"
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2069]
oke thanks..
Robert
11-May-2007
[2070]
That's it. As always: Speed or Space.
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2071x4]
one reason is that they kick out VM.
relavance does not use one single byte in VM, so its ram never gets 
paged to disk.
so you actually need more ram because of that... but actually, the 
nodes are all on disk.
so you can read and trash all nodes, at disk speed, so its very efficient 
actually.
Christian
11-May-2007
[2075]
anton, you mean relavance.com? can't find much there in terms of 
technical information ...
Anton
11-May-2007
[2076x2]
Can't be corrupted. I've got some ways that will help. But I guess 
he means the core system is very simple, small, and used very frequently, 
therefore hard to introduce bugs into.
Christian, I would follow the original blog article link, maybe.
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2078]
IIRC they have different disk access methods, but have their own 
File system which kicks out the os, so that they can properly implement 
the DMA. also note that their memory model has no memory fragmentation 
 the available ram and disk space is always contiguous!!
Anton
11-May-2007
[2079]
I remember reading a fair bit of material similar to maybe the first 
third what we're seeing now.
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2080x2]
so its not just the concepts which are interesting, its the actual 
implementation to.
hw wise you cannot corrupt it, but obviously, if your application 
trashses connections... you can bugger up the db!
Pekr
11-May-2007
[2082]
ah, my message did not get it thru :-) Is Carl's Concluding remarks 
following? Maybe a time for final questions?
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2083x2]
Just out of curriosity, is there any existing relation to Intelligent 
(AI) software, 3th party software, with this concept?
self-solving context modules..
Anton
11-May-2007
[2085]
thanks Gabriele. Just what I thought.
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[2086x2]
A: to anton: very few organizations have implemented an AD up to 
now. Departement of Defense,, and also Health Care in Canada
:)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2088]
Resistance to change.  just like REBOL.
btiffin
11-May-2007
[2089x2]
Hey, I worked at both those departments...way back.
Well, the US DoD work was thru NDHQ...
Christian
11-May-2007
[2091]
it sounds mighty interesting, but given the depth of information 
(or lack thereof) on their web site it doesn't surprise me that the 
hordes aren't storming in ...
Anton
11-May-2007
[2092]
Q: (not so important) How long ago did the DoD implement an Associative 
Database ?
Brock
11-May-2007
[2093]
[NDHQ being Canada's equivalent of US - DoD]
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2094]
he was speaking of american DoD
Anton
11-May-2007
[2095]
It's too abstract for most people.
Brock
11-May-2007
[2096]
my reference was to btiffin's statement of his work with DoD was 
through Canada's equivalent.
btiffin
11-May-2007
[2097]
Back then, Ada was the choice of lingo for the DoD, another, umm, 
high level fail case
Christian
11-May-2007
[2098]
I doubt that, there's just not enough information for people to evaluate 
whether it _could_ be interesting for them.
Pekr
11-May-2007
[2099]
let's keep it in sane levels .... using rebol :-)
btiffin
11-May-2007
[2100]
Agreed...simple is far safer for avoiding fail cases
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2101]
his gui is a bit un intuitive, I had a private demo a few weeks ago 
and it a while before it feeling "obvious" to me.
Christian
11-May-2007
[2102]
... and web research is hampered by the fact that "relavance" is 
a common misspelling ;-)
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2103]
ooo wow what nice drawings he has... realy great..
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2104]
and BTW thought is just One application... its not The application.
Sunanda
11-May-2007
[2105]
5  min break now
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2106]
Thanks Ron !
Anton
11-May-2007
[2107]
Massive applause from me !!
btiffin
11-May-2007
[2108]
That was a good intro...
Henrik
11-May-2007
[2109]
clap, clap, etc.
Will
11-May-2007
[2110]
yea very interesting
Sunanda
11-May-2007
[2111]
tx Ron
Anton
11-May-2007
[2112]
Thankyou Ron.
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2113x2]
almost 1000 connections today !
(on the web streams)
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2115x2]
Oke who is getting the cake out ?
ill grab coffee