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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007
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[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [2069] | oke thanks.. |
Robert 11-May-2007 [2070] | That's it. As always: Speed or Space. |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [2071x4] | one reason is that they kick out VM. |
relavance does not use one single byte in VM, so its ram never gets paged to disk. | |
so you actually need more ram because of that... but actually, the nodes are all on disk. | |
so you can read and trash all nodes, at disk speed, so its very efficient actually. | |
Christian 11-May-2007 [2075] | anton, you mean relavance.com? can't find much there in terms of technical information ... |
Anton 11-May-2007 [2076x2] | Can't be corrupted. I've got some ways that will help. But I guess he means the core system is very simple, small, and used very frequently, therefore hard to introduce bugs into. |
Christian, I would follow the original blog article link, maybe. | |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [2078] | IIRC they have different disk access methods, but have their own File system which kicks out the os, so that they can properly implement the DMA. also note that their memory model has no memory fragmentation the available ram and disk space is always contiguous!! |
Anton 11-May-2007 [2079] | I remember reading a fair bit of material similar to maybe the first third what we're seeing now. |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [2080x2] | so its not just the concepts which are interesting, its the actual implementation to. |
hw wise you cannot corrupt it, but obviously, if your application trashses connections... you can bugger up the db! | |
Pekr 11-May-2007 [2082] | ah, my message did not get it thru :-) Is Carl's Concluding remarks following? Maybe a time for final questions? |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [2083x2] | Just out of curriosity, is there any existing relation to Intelligent (AI) software, 3th party software, with this concept? |
self-solving context modules.. | |
Anton 11-May-2007 [2085] | thanks Gabriele. Just what I thought. |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [2086x2] | A: to anton: very few organizations have implemented an AD up to now. Departement of Defense,, and also Health Care in Canada |
:) | |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [2088] | Resistance to change. just like REBOL. |
btiffin 11-May-2007 [2089x2] | Hey, I worked at both those departments...way back. |
Well, the US DoD work was thru NDHQ... | |
Christian 11-May-2007 [2091] | it sounds mighty interesting, but given the depth of information (or lack thereof) on their web site it doesn't surprise me that the hordes aren't storming in ... |
Anton 11-May-2007 [2092] | Q: (not so important) How long ago did the DoD implement an Associative Database ? |
Brock 11-May-2007 [2093] | [NDHQ being Canada's equivalent of US - DoD] |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [2094] | he was speaking of american DoD |
Anton 11-May-2007 [2095] | It's too abstract for most people. |
Brock 11-May-2007 [2096] | my reference was to btiffin's statement of his work with DoD was through Canada's equivalent. |
btiffin 11-May-2007 [2097] | Back then, Ada was the choice of lingo for the DoD, another, umm, high level fail case |
Christian 11-May-2007 [2098] | I doubt that, there's just not enough information for people to evaluate whether it _could_ be interesting for them. |
Pekr 11-May-2007 [2099] | let's keep it in sane levels .... using rebol :-) |
btiffin 11-May-2007 [2100] | Agreed...simple is far safer for avoiding fail cases |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [2101] | his gui is a bit un intuitive, I had a private demo a few weeks ago and it a while before it feeling "obvious" to me. |
Christian 11-May-2007 [2102] | ... and web research is hampered by the fact that "relavance" is a common misspelling ;-) |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [2103] | ooo wow what nice drawings he has... realy great.. |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [2104] | and BTW thought is just One application... its not The application. |
Sunanda 11-May-2007 [2105] | 5 min break now |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [2106] | Thanks Ron ! |
Anton 11-May-2007 [2107] | Massive applause from me !! |
btiffin 11-May-2007 [2108] | That was a good intro... |
Henrik 11-May-2007 [2109] | clap, clap, etc. |
Will 11-May-2007 [2110] | yea very interesting |
Sunanda 11-May-2007 [2111] | tx Ron |
Anton 11-May-2007 [2112] | Thankyou Ron. |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [2113x2] | almost 1000 connections today ! |
(on the web streams) | |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [2115x2] | Oke who is getting the cake out ? |
ill grab coffee | |
Christian 11-May-2007 [2117] | the stream really works fantastically well, congrats on that! |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [2118] | had some bad hickups last hour.. |
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