World: r3wp

we plan to have full graphics with rich text by july, with vid (at 
least the basics)

Gabriele, how comprehensive do you plan to make VID out of the box 
this time?

(when VID is complete, that is)

as much as possible.

my first goal is....... i don't want to spend time writing guis for 
simple apps.

so it should be...  a few lines and you have a fully functional user 
interface, for all the common cases.

http takes a day or two ?

Is this a rewrite, or tweaking of the existing protocols?

Async ?

wasn't is said, that new kernel is async, but http initial release 
will be sync only?

With task available that should make no big difference?

rewrite, async (R3 devices are async just like amiga devices)

Carl posted his presentation

The requested URL /article/devcon2007.rebdocproj.org/news.html" was 
not found on this server.

Its seems to be a small url hiccup in the blog.
http://devcon2007.rebdocproj.org/news.htmlis the real link.

hmm... so much new stuff. feels like I have to learn rebol all over 
again. :-)

now I'm beginning to wonder whether REBOL could be useful under XNA 
on the XBox 360.

I would like to ask, re. posted slides - why is rebin a problem and 
hence is deferred?

also - virtual windows - rendering graphics into image .... does 
it mean we get native VID windowing? (would be usefull for browser-plugin, 
because in other case we have to limit amout of OS level windows 
opened, whereas with rebol windows (vid style), noone would mind, 
as nothing would pop-up ...

with R3 it should be possible to make own windowing system... but 
still don't know how to make it secure.... I mean if module can expand 
into global, what if I don't want loaded modules to do that (I mean 
if I for example want to open foreign script in virtual window)... 
anyway... I think the case with rendering into image is described 
scenario of current:  DRAW image commands

virtual windows - rendering graphics into an image means that a stream 
of images can be sent over a network to another user in a "terminal 
services"-like session.

and the new event datatype will be good for this too.

just why send it as an image? it should be sent as VID - SAP does 
it too - that is their advantage in comparison to other ERPs, as 
they do it like VID.

you have "fat" client, which can interpret it. The question is, once 
you render your window, is layout still valid?

That's just one application of the idea.

Videos are online:

http://www.sahores-conseil.com/?q=node/2

Thanks Henrik.

GREAT GREAT!! thanks a lot to all that contributed 8-))

OHH and at a great high quality 8-)))

does not work for me using either vlc or mplayer

(why can't this be a simple http download?)

does this work for you?

http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov

the object tag has:

<param name="src" value="sample.mov">
<param name="qtsrc" value="rtsp://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov">

the embed tag has:

SRC="http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov"

maybe there is a problem with that

and you are on window right?

linux

the http link seems to redirect to the rtsp one (at least VLC reports 
that)

it seems like the problem is that RTSP wants to send me UDP packets... 
but i'm under nat.

mplayer allows me to force tcp... but i get only audio. it would 
still be much easier to just have a simple http download link... 
KISS

Oh, maybe I can open UDP on my router...

the darwin streaming server can be configured to stream rtsp on tcp 
I think

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/streamingserver/specs.html

Some client computers located on networks that use address translation 
may also be
unable to receive UDP packets, but they can receive media 
thatÕs streamed over HTTP
connections

from page 29 http://images.apple.com/server/pdfs/QT_Streaming_Server.pdf

hang on... I can stream the video in Firefox QuickTime plugin.