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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007

Pekr
21-May-2007
[2367x2]
I would like to ask, re. posted slides - why is rebin a problem and 
hence is deferred?
also - virtual windows - rendering graphics into image .... does 
it mean we get native VID windowing? (would be usefull for browser-plugin, 
because in other case we have to limit amout of OS level windows 
opened, whereas with rebol windows (vid style), noone would mind, 
as nothing would pop-up ...
Oldes
21-May-2007
[2369]
with R3 it should be possible to make own windowing system... but 
still don't know how to make it secure.... I mean if module can expand 
into global, what if I don't want loaded modules to do that (I mean 
if I for example want to open foreign script in virtual window)... 
anyway... I think the case with rendering into image is described 
scenario of current:  DRAW image commands
Anton
21-May-2007
[2370x2]
virtual windows - rendering graphics into an image means that a stream 
of images can be sent over a network to another user in a "terminal 
services"-like session.
and the new event datatype will be good for this too.
Pekr
21-May-2007
[2372x2]
just why send it as an image? it should be sent as VID - SAP does 
it too - that is their advantage in comparison to other ERPs, as 
they do it like VID.
you have "fat" client, which can interpret it. The question is, once 
you render your window, is layout still valid?
Anton
21-May-2007
[2374]
That's just one application of the idea.
Henrik
23-May-2007
[2375x2]
Videos are online:
http://www.sahores-conseil.com/?q=node/2
Anton
23-May-2007
[2377]
Thanks Henrik.
Will
23-May-2007
[2378x2]
GREAT GREAT!! thanks a lot to all that contributed 8-))
OHH and at a great high quality 8-)))
Gabriele
23-May-2007
[2380x2]
does not work for me using either vlc or mplayer
(why can't this be a simple http download?)
Will
23-May-2007
[2382x8]
does this work for you?
http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov
the object tag has:
<param name="src" value="sample.mov">
<param name="qtsrc" value="rtsp://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov">
the embed tag has:
SRC="http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov"
maybe there is a problem with that
and you are on window right?
Gabriele
23-May-2007
[2390x4]
linux
the http link seems to redirect to the rtsp one (at least VLC reports 
that)
it seems like the problem is that RTSP wants to send me UDP packets... 
but i'm under nat.
mplayer allows me to force tcp... but i get only audio. it would 
still be much easier to just have a simple http download link... 
KISS
Anton
23-May-2007
[2394]
Oh, maybe I can open UDP on my router...
Will
23-May-2007
[2395x4]
the darwin streaming server can be configured to stream rtsp on tcp 
I think
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/streamingserver/specs.html
Some client computers located on networks that use address translation 
may also be
unable to receive UDP packets, but they can receive media 
thatĠs streamed over HTTP
connections
from page 29 http://images.apple.com/server/pdfs/QT_Streaming_Server.pdf
Anton
23-May-2007
[2399x2]
hang on... I can stream the video in Firefox QuickTime plugin.
Therefore I shouldn't have to do anything to my router, right ?
[unknown: 9]
23-May-2007
[2401]
Can we just move them all to Rebol.org (for example)?
Throw them on a page in a simple clean table


[Date and time of talk | Name of speaker | subject | link to movie 
]
Anton
23-May-2007
[2402]
We're trying to ! :)
Will
23-May-2007
[2403]
I'm not sure there is a way to save the udp stream, they shuld enable 
tcp/http so we can dowload and save, then maybe transcode to a more 
friendly format
[unknown: 9]
23-May-2007
[2404]
Why don't we just get teh French team to hand over the original files!?!
Will
23-May-2007
[2405]
yea then I could dl and batch convert to multiple formats if needed, 
at least could try to.. 8-)
Anton
23-May-2007
[2406x2]
The French team have obviously handed down a tech challenge, which 
we can't resist.,
Umm.. anyone speak French ? :)
Will
23-May-2007
[2408]
me
[unknown: 9]
23-May-2007
[2409x2]
Yeah, that is what we need, another challenge...
I made a task on Qtask Rebol Devcon for Didier.  They can upload 
them all to Qtask.  Qtask has syndication of Qwikis and Files coming 
today (in fact).

So Qtask can now host public files.
Anton
23-May-2007
[2411x3]
Cool.

I tried, but there seems no way to add myself to the sahores-conseil 
website.
So I can't request the files from them that way.
(François Jouen and Pierre Sahores)
btiffin
23-May-2007
[2414]
Reichart;  Does that mean I can export a Qtask "REBOL look busy" 
calendar?
[unknown: 9]
23-May-2007
[2415]
I will move Qtask questions/answers to !Qtask...
Anton
26-May-2007
[2416]
I sent a mail to [sc-:-sahores-conseil-:-com] asking for direct access 
to the DevCon videos.