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Gabriele - ask him to provide us with Elixir based visual graph of 
his all systems, because after all those years, we still just gues, 
what are those about :-)

So Reichart, cone of silence aside, how is this partnership between 
RT and Prolific going to affect future developments?

Should not effect us...

Terry - in a good way? :-) Reichart is rich man, he has experience 
with business, he contracts many rebol developers already :-)

terry, i think the partnership is between safeworlds and rt, and 
safeworlds is - i think - separated from prolific. but i guess your 
question still stands.

(reichart correct me if i'm wrong)

premise is the same

yes, just joking around, I can see why Terry asks such question ...

who's talking?  and what is he talking about?

maxim.. about steel

Isn't Safeworlds" also RT's involvement?

Maxim, talking about Steel

Maxim is talking :-)

Max talking about Steel / SLiM etc

Maxim looks GREAT!

Schedule is here:
http://devcon2007.rebdocproj.org/schedule.html

it sounds very odd .. getting triple echo

ahh .. had two streams open at once!

My point is.. is Rebol going corporate.. with a particular agenda.. 
(ie: Microsoft).. or leaning towards open source.. this is a serious 
question.

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Presentation is based on these docs:
http://www.rebol.it/steel/

Terry: basically, Safeworlds will offer a product, AltME 3, that 
replaces View, IOS and AltMe 1. That is a product and so is more 
business targeted.

RT, instead, focuses on the language itself, and the language has 
a lot of parts that are open source.

parts.. interesting

there is no real duality between open source and corporate, anyway. 
(we're talking bsd license, not gpl)

Yup...

the core itself is still proprietary (a 200k dll so far)

There can be a conflict of interest

The istream looks REALLY good!

RT is interested in developing the language REBOL. Safwerolds is 
interested in developing the product AltMe 3. their iinterests converge 
a lot. there's mainly just a difference of focus.

Would be fun to know how many people are pulling it.

So Altme3 is the new view?  You don't see a conflict there?

How can there be a conflict in a free marketplace?

reichart: i think it was 3 or 4 people

Great video of Maxim's ASS!

:_)

I understand the financial aspect.. and the free market aspect.  
 Is Rebol turning into an application, more than a language the Im 
to build a company on?

kick ass video

REBOL is the language, AltMe is an application (Virtual OS actually) 
based on it.

Max is putting in some negativity - petr be happy

Video forze (on my side at least)

Yep, he's just compained direct to Carl cos his demo is having difficulties 
wth multiple open windows.
Carl said Atlme can handle that case :-)

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was this talk prepared?

i'll ask max ;)

Refresh worked, audio cuts in and out.

We know Max never finishes anything