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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007

Gabriele
10-May-2007
[519x2]
not even presentations?
;)
Graham
10-May-2007
[521]
yeah ... I think this is going to never finish
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[522x2]
Is the link to teh video feed ON the website?  As in here somewhere? 
 http://devcon2007.rebdocproj.org/index.html
Ah, I see it, in the Sessions page.
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[524]
yep
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[525]
Says LIFE as opposed to LIVE.
Terry
10-May-2007
[526]
Carl said he'll discuss R3 licensing/pricing later.. let's hope for 
some fresh air in this area, or I'm afraid R3 will become a specialty 
application for a very narrow user base, with a specific agenda.
3:20 a.m. here.. signing off.. enjoy the rest of the conference.
Sunanda
10-May-2007
[527]
Goodnight, Terry.
Terry
10-May-2007
[528]
I was actually looking forward to your presentation Reichart... too 
bad for the tech issues.
Anton
10-May-2007
[529]
I am bit concerned if View becomes proprietary.
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[530]
terry, i exclude that's the case. but we'll see :)
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[531]
Other than only seeing Maxims ASS, this video is great.  I think 
we can make money for the fetish market that likes French Canadian 
Geek Porn.
Terry
10-May-2007
[532]
that smiley is promising Gab.. l8tr
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[533x2]
I'm riding my bicycle with some friends in about 4 hours...at a place 
that two days ago all burned.  We lost something like 300 hectacres.
Los Angeles lost a HUGE resource, Grifith Park burned to the ground.
Anton
10-May-2007
[535]
That sounds terrible.
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[536x2]
http://www.laist.com/archives/2007/05/09/fires_bring_us_closer_together.php
Was amazing to see teh entire skyline on fire
Henrik
10-May-2007
[538]
back... anything about when new info is released on the web on R3?
Pekr
10-May-2007
[539]
Gabriele - in what way is AltME a virtual OS?
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[540]
henrik - i'll ask soon. i think that carl already has all the files 
online.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[541]
Henrik - I expect Carl's notes be revealed with his next speach ....
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[542]
pekr: details are not given yet.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[543]
Gabriele - so only the core.dll becomes closed source? What about 
View? All open sourced?
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[544]
afaik, yes.
Henrik
10-May-2007
[545]
240 kb kernel... is this completely barebones and is this bigger 
or smaller than R2?
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[546]
The idea is to open source a lot, and just keep the low level stuff 
closed, but RT will post something official.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[547]
so now Ruby can finally have their View clone? :-) They will take 
rebol.dll, create one function "do-rebol", and voila :-)
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[548x2]
it is the dll only, so it's like R2 Core without the OS dependent 
parts
the actual license on code has not been announced.
Pekr
10-May-2007
[550]
Henrik - good question. I would like to know, if there is finally 
only one executable, so e.g. View is loadable module/component? Or 
what is the situation. I don't understand the architecture. I can 
imagine new SDK, where you can decide, what you put inside, but there 
are parts like View, external language plug-ins, etc.
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[551]
so it's hard to say if other languages can take advantage of our 
code (they're probably not smart enough anyway ;)
Pekr
10-May-2007
[552]
:-)
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[553]
one executable - that would be AltMe 3. but developers will have 
more (ie you can have your own exe you compile yourself)
Pekr
10-May-2007
[554]
Why not? rebol.dll was already out there on the net with plug-in. 
Jaime posted interface - you could pass it a string with rebol code, 
no?
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[555]
some components are internal, some external plugins
Pekr
10-May-2007
[556]
Gabriele - this is actually good, you know? First Ruby guys will 
think they got View for Ruby, next they will realise, they don't 
actually need Ruby, to just start and use Rebol, so they will drop 
Ruby :-)
Henrik
10-May-2007
[557]
I'm a bit confused that REBOL/View == AltME now, so does it mean 
that GUI development is moved away from RT?
Sunanda
10-May-2007
[558]
Henrik -- Maxim has mentioned your styles for Glayout several times, 
and demoed them.

Said he was up at 04:00 last night, and it took him 20minutes to 
integrate your styles into Glayout.
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[559]
petr, sure, apps would benefit to have rebol in, but would another 
language do? i don't know. maybe.
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[560]
(I may have missed this) how many people are in that room?
Henrik
10-May-2007
[561]
sunanda, cool :-)
Pekr
10-May-2007
[562]
27
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[563]
How many "dont" speak English?"
Pekr
10-May-2007
[564]
all French? ;-)
Gabriele
10-May-2007
[565x2]
i think view == altme in terms of products.
don't or can't speak english?
Sunanda
10-May-2007
[567]
Not spoke to anyone here who has no english.
The conference is all in english.
[unknown: 9]
10-May-2007
[568]
: ) I guess I will go with "Don't"