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[!REBOL2 Releases] Discuss 2.x releases

Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1336]
On 64 bit: really? Why?
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1337x2]
Because Windows 2008 server is a 64 bit platform and I can't read 
the registry anymore
32bit applications can not read the 64 bit registry
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1339]
Huh?
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1340x2]
So, I can't even connect to ODBC DNS on windows 2008
DSN
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1342]
I'm not familiar with changes MS has made to make the OS 64 bit. 
 Does this change apply to all API functions?
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1343x2]
Don't know .. just know if affects the windows registry
Brian will know the details
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1345]
I can understand changing various data-related APIs to allow 64 bits, 
but in general, 64 bit systems are just marketing ploys.
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1346]
I think it's part of the virtualization stuff that 2008 does to make 
the 32 bit app think it is running under a 32bit os.
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1347x3]
(BTW, I get to say this because the first 64 CPU OS architecture 
I helped design was in 1981 at HP.)
1 min... let me google it.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724072(VS.85).aspx
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1350]
So you have a fix?
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1351]
Looks like just a flag change. In theory, easy. In practice, someone 
will need to test it.
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1352]
I setup a Windows 2008 server on Amazon.  Setup Firebird 64 bit and 
a DSN.  Then tried to connect using ODBC.  Failed.
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1353]
Where did it fail? In connect? What was the error msg?
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1354x4]
Can't find the dsn entry
So, I'm assuming that it can't read the registry
Also, my client app under W64 (7/vista) can not read the registry 
either ...to see if certain 64 bit apps are installed ( Ghostscript 
etc )
So, any possibility of a 64 bit release of R2?
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1358]
I'm not yet to the point of agreeing that this is a registry problem.
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1359x3]
Someone was complaining that checksum ports don't work for > 2Gb 
files
Easy enough to check if you have a 64 bit windows available
Seems to me that 64 bit windows is now standard for many manufacturers 
like HP
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1362]
So, you see an error "ODBC error: ***"  correct?  What's the **** 
part?
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1363]
I'll have to reboot the Ec2 instance to check it
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1364x3]
The effort to make R2 work properly in 64bit >> releasing R3 and 
adding things like native ODBC to the open host code.
Essentially, R2 is supported and gets some fixes, but not a rewrite.
Or, should I say, the rewrite is R3.
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1367]
Do you have access to any Windows 64 bit PCs?
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1368x2]
There's a pile of boxes here, one being Win64 but has not been booted 
in five years, min.
Can you create an account for me on your amazon sys?
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1370x3]
I am going to try and start it ...
going to take 15 mins to generate the password for me
I didn't write it down since I didn't think I was going to use it 
again
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1373x6]
ah.
Still, 15 mins seems like a long time.
An invalid pass crack should take ever-increasing authentication 
times... so a 15 min password gen time seems silly.
Does your app run in R3? If not, could it?
The ODBC port interface is only about 2 pages of C, so could probably 
be moved to R3 "easily enough" at the open host level.
Then, there's also the dialect part.
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1379x2]
no good .. I've lost the password so can't access it anymore.  And 
it won't generate a new password for me.
It was just an experiment anyway.
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[1381x2]
Well, IMHO, I'd rather spend the time getting DB access generally 
working from R3.
Especially since I'd only need to write 10% of it.  (I've been told 
I should delegate.)
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[1383x3]
Well, my app uses odbc so without it, it won't run.
The gui is not important
And it uses SSL :(