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[!REBOL2 Releases] Discuss 2.x releases

PeterWood
6-Feb-2011
[2303]
Here's my issue though I'm still running 2.7.5

>> f: func[][1]                
 
>> o: make object! [my-func: :f
]
>> b: reduce ['my-func :f]     
 
== [my-func func [][1]]

>> :o/my-func
== 1

>> :b/my-func
== 1


As you can see the value is being evaluated when using a "get-path!". 
Rebol3 simply presented the unevaluated value which is what I had 
expected.
Ladislav
6-Feb-2011
[2304x2]
Then yjou did not notice, that in R3, it is a different datatype.
(no get-word in the value)
PeterWood
6-Feb-2011
[2306]
No I didn't so let me rephrase my question. Is the  get-path! type 
supported in 2.7.8?
Ladislav
7-Feb-2011
[2307]
no, the datatype does not exist in R2
PeterWood
7-Feb-2011
[2308]
Thanks.
GrahamC
12-Feb-2011
[2309]
am I the only one who notices that cut and paste is completely broken 
on Rebol2 new releases?
BrianH
12-Feb-2011
[2310]
Which platform?
GrahamC
12-Feb-2011
[2311x2]
Windows 7
I can paste into here, and everywhere except Rebol2 2.7.8
BrianH
12-Feb-2011
[2313]
Works for me on XP (normally I would have 7 but that computer needs 
rebuilding). Right-click menu, ^V and read clipboard:// .
MikeL
13-Feb-2011
[2314x2]
Works for me on REBOL/View 2.7.8.3.1 1-Jan-2011
on Win7 32b
Ladislav
13-Feb-2011
[2316]
am I the only one who notices that cut and paste is completely broken 
on Rebol2 new releases?
 - most probably yes, it works for me - Windows 7 64-bit
Oldes
13-Feb-2011
[2317]
works for me as well.
GrahamC
13-Feb-2011
[2318]
Well, windows cut and paste services are working for me with other 
apps ( except chrome which often won't allow pasting from chrome 
into other apps ) so I guess I have some weird software that is stopping 
this working.  Often it goes away when I reboot ...
Maxim
14-Feb-2011
[2319]
could it be malware?
GrahamC
14-Feb-2011
[2320]
that only affects Rebol ?
james_nak
14-Feb-2011
[2321x2]
Graham, I sometimes see the copy  problem happening. I'm not sure 
why it happens and I am usually running rebol. Mostly I notice it 
with Ultraedit and Altme though I think they become the victims of 
the circumstance. I'll notate it more closely when it happens the 
next time. BTW, paste always seems to work but it will of course 
paste the last thing it could copy.
Graham, also check to see that a right mouse/copy works. I've seen 
cases where the Ctl-C stops working but right mouse does (?)
GrahamC
14-Feb-2011
[2323x2]
Not for me ... I try the Control-C, and also Control-X and right 
click, copy .... but can't paste into Rebol.
but I can paste into other apps ...
james_nak
14-Feb-2011
[2325]
Ah. Yes, I've seen that too. As I mentioned, this happens in Ultraedit 
though I'm not sure if rebol is originally causing it or not. Usually 
I have to close down the app and restart it to make it work again.
Maxim
14-Feb-2011
[2326x2]
it might be windows 7 specific since I've never had a problem with 
rebol copy/paste on XP.  
they changed a lot of APIs in vista/7 . 

Altme is a different story though.
one thing to look out for in view (in any face using the caret and 
standard focus mechanism) is that when windows are closed, they do 
not unfocus their fields.  this has bitten me quite a few times which 
made other key handlers seem like they where dead.


this is why you should always call unfocus when you open or close 
a window in view.
GrahamC
19-Feb-2011
[2328]
How about including a few common parse rules ... such as digit, digits, 
alpha alphanumeric in the standard build.  Adds nothing really.to 
size.
Robert
19-Feb-2011
[2329]
That's a good idea. Should be part of R3 as well.
GrahamC
19-Feb-2011
[2330]
some of these exist already but they're hidden inside special contexts 
such as the url parser
GrahamC
20-Feb-2011
[2331]
Well, this is interesting....


I don't have clipboard functionality in 2.7.8 while Prevx is running, 
but I do in 2.7.6.  Turn off Prevx monitoring and my 2.7.8 clipboard 
starts to work again.
BrianH
20-Feb-2011
[2332x2]
Checking the Prevx support forum, it appears that they block pasting 
to applications to prevent clipboard monitoring. R2.7.6 is probably 
in their whitelist. Someone with a Prevx license needs to report 
that they are blocking 2.7.8, so they can add it to their whitelist.
In particular, they block all apps not in their whitelist any time 
a "secured" web browser is open.
GrahamC
20-Feb-2011
[2334]
a secured web browser??  do you mean a https site is open?
Kaj
21-Feb-2011
[2335]
Nice, a tool that prevents you from using your computer, unless you 
tell them that you really want to
GrahamC
21-Feb-2011
[2336]
I'd already figured out i needed to disable prevx for doing screen 
captures!
Kaj
21-Feb-2011
[2337]
Didn't you install it for nailing your clipboard and screen buffer 
shut?
GrahamC
21-Feb-2011
[2338x2]
No :)
I installed it because I'm too cheap to buy a virus scanner
BrianH
21-Feb-2011
[2340]
No, I mean any web browser that the Prevx plugin is installed in, 
when Prevx is running. That's what they call a "secured browser". 
If Prevx is running, it restricts clipboard use to apps it has whitelisted.
GrahamC
21-Feb-2011
[2341]
Jeez, I live in my web browser
BrianH
21-Feb-2011
[2342x2]
Why would you buy a virus scanner, when there are so many good free 
ones?
Can't you just live in Chrome with AdBlock? That solves most of your 
browser security problems.
GrahamC
21-Feb-2011
[2344x2]
I haven't bought a virus scanner in my life
And i'm forced to use 3 different browsers
BrianH
21-Feb-2011
[2346x2]
Ah. Well, I've found MSE to be good enough, with Malwarebytes as 
a backup. No charge for either.
Or you can camp out in the Prevx forums and make sure that every 
program that you use/make that uses the clipboard gets on their whitelist.
GrahamC
21-Feb-2011
[2348x2]
I think I'll just uninstall it ... and use the MSE one
It's too secure for me
Kaj
22-Feb-2011
[2350x3]
Or you can live in Linux without any virus scanners
I haven't installed a virus scanner in my life on my own machines
Well, that's not entirely true; I ran Cerebrus on Windows 2000 :-)