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[!REBOL3 Extensions] REBOL 3 Extensions discussions
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Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [858] | No, as there is no hostkit release for either of those. |
Carl 12-Jul-2010 [859] | Basically, same as Linux right now. |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [860x2] | Can't sensibly try without e.g. a OSX dylib. |
But I prodded you for weeks to build one :) | |
Carl 12-Jul-2010 [862x2] | Also, problematic builds are Sun and HP Unix. But, anyway, if people are willing to add them, it's ok with me. |
Right... I remember that now. We'll have to give it another go. | |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [864] | I guess sticking with the big three (+ BSD, maybe) will be sufficient for now. |
AdrianS 12-Jul-2010 [865] | here's the CMakeLists.txt from the OpenCV project , as an example: https://code.ros.org/svn/opencv/tags/latest_tested_snapshot/opencv/CMakeLists.txt |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [866x2] | In my opinion, there are bigger problems to tackle before spreading thin over multiple platforms makes sense. |
(Eventing, for example) | |
Carl 12-Jul-2010 [868] | Yes, of course, but if more developers get involved, the work does not need to be sequential. |
Graham 12-Jul-2010 [869] | Oh yeah ..let's get an Os/2 build too ! |
Carl 12-Jul-2010 [870] | Hmmm. |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [871] | http://bolka.at/2010/rebol3/CMakeLists.txt.html |
Carl 12-Jul-2010 [872] | Looking at above link, I don't think cmake provides much benefit to us. |
Graham 12-Jul-2010 [873] | ( the current version of Os/2 is ecomworkstation and is positioned as a secure enterprise client environemnt ) |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [874x2] | Here's the CMake buildfile I use for the A96 hostkit |
CMake provides the benefit that we don't have to reinvent the wheel for now. It has, for example, a nice installer for Win32 and can automatically generate Visual Studio project files from the above. | |
AdrianS 12-Jul-2010 [876] | well, if you are considering a makefile generator, at least cmake is somewhat of a standard |
Carl 12-Jul-2010 [877] | Installer? What does it install? |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [878x3] | cmake.exe |
CMake takes the above as input and generates e.g. a Makefile as output. | |
Taking specifics of the actual build environment into account. | |
Carl 12-Jul-2010 [881] | The method I use for R3 simply uses REBOL to generate the host-kit, the makefile, and other related files at the same time. |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [882x2] | With CMake the workflow of a user who wants to build the hostkit on Win32 would be as follows: - Download and install a toolchain (e.g. MingW or MSVC) - Download and install CMake - Download the R3 Hostkit - Generate a R3 build script for your preferred toolchain using CMake. E.g. use CMake to generate a GNU make Makefile for MingW - Build the R3 Hostkit (using the generated build script) |
Without CMake, those steps would be the same, except for the extra installation of CMake and the generation of a local build script. But it would also either limit the user to a single toolchain (such as MingW, currently) or you would need to replicate some of the functionality of CMake in your make-build.r | |
AdrianS 12-Jul-2010 [884] | there's a GUI front end for cmake too, though I guess one could be made for REBOL just as easily - this lets you resolve env var issues and other things |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [885] | Further, at least for the A96 hostkit, Linux and Win32 hostkits are completely separate packages, and that's an incredible nuisance for someone doing cross-platform work. |
Edgar 12-Jul-2010 [886x2] | It built for me just fine but I had to modify the makefile to use cp lib\r3lib.dll . instead of copy lib\r3lib.dll . inside a mingw cmd window. |
Do we have a test files to run to check if all areas of R3 that is implemented is working? | |
Graham 12-Jul-2010 [888] | It would be good if we had access to the test suites |
Edgar 12-Jul-2010 [889] | After adding MinGW\bin and msys\1.0\bin to the windows command path and also copying rebol.exe to msys\1.0\bin folder, I was able to build it from a normal command window without modifying the makefile. |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [890] | Carl: in any case, I don't care much about CMake. Just shipping the hostkit with your make-build.r instead of a pre-built makefile would most likely do just fine for getting an integrated cross-platrform build working. (Plus, of course, bundling the libraries and sources for all platforms in the hostkit.) |
Edgar 12-Jul-2010 [891] | I see go.r can be use as test. |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [892] | And just in case: _THANKS_ a million for the new hostkit code drop, Carl (and everyone else who helped make it happen)! |
Graham 12-Jul-2010 [893] | echo that |
Maxim 12-Jul-2010 [894] | yes thanks to everyone who worked on making it happen. :-) |
Graham 12-Jul-2010 [895] | we now have a domain ( thanks Andreas ) for the tracker http://jira.rebolsource.net:8080/secure/Dashboard.jspa |
Andreas 12-Jul-2010 [896] | and now is probably as good a time as any to move this discussion to !REBOL3 Host Kit |
NickA 13-Jul-2010 [897] | +1 Thank you! |
Pekr 13-Jul-2010 [898] | Apart from Win, OS-X, Linux, BSD, the next most important platform is really imo an ARM plus Android. |
Graham 13-Jul-2010 [899x2] | Put Arm before BSD |
BSD is well serviced by R2 | |
NickA 13-Jul-2010 [901] | I agree - for R3 to gain traction, mobile support should be a priority. |
Robert 13-Jul-2010 [902x2] | Jira: Why a new tracker? Isn't CureCode still be used? No information fragmentation please. |
Priorities: Before getting new platforms up & running I see feature completion to be more critical. Otherwise we have a moving target that takes to much effort to keep in sync. | |
Pekr 13-Jul-2010 [904] | I agree about the completness-first argument ... |
Graham 13-Jul-2010 [905] | Robert, if you read above, Carl did not want to make a public release unless someone gathered all the comments ... and Andreas & I volunteered. The curecode tracker does not have a hostkit project ... so I used my new Jira tracker. Simple as that. |
BrianH 13-Jul-2010 [906x2] | Most of the host kit problems are R3 problems as well. We have categories in R3's Curecode project, and we can add a Host-Kit category if needed (I will do so right now). Multiple trackers are not a good idea, in general. We'll see if they become a problem in this specific case. |
Done. | |
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