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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide
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Graham 13-Jan-2010 [1374x8] | of course couldn't have got far without Andreas' and Steeve's help |
Just finished installing virtualbox, and now going to install hyalfax ... but no modem so not sure how I can test it | |
installed ubuntu server .. downloaded that using the ftp:// scheme :) | |
There's such a thing as a software modem .. IAXmodem ... but not sure if I need Asterisk as well :( | |
This is pretty cool ... I can talk the hylafax server running in virtualbox using the ftp scheme. | |
Do we need imap:// ?? | |
It's a poorly specified protocol that is a lot of work to implement ... | |
never used finger://, whois:// nntp:// .... | |
BrianH 13-Jan-2010 [1382] | I use nntp all the time. It's also called Usenet. |
Graham 13-Jan-2010 [1383] | from REBOL ? |
BrianH 13-Jan-2010 [1384] | Not as often lately, but if it were available in R3 I would use it. |
Graham 13-Jan-2010 [1385] | I wonder what's required to write a torrent client ... |
BrianH 13-Jan-2010 [1386x3] | MD5 checksums, a parser for the files (easy), and whatever they use for encryption. |
And TCP and/or UDP. | |
And HTTP for tracker communication, and whatever DHT is if you want to support that. | |
Graham 14-Jan-2010 [1389x3] | http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification |
looks like a holiday project vs a spare afternoon one! | |
Sometimes you want to write to the port, and then continue to write ... so your awake handler returns false. But sometimes for the same command, you want it to return on completion .. so your awake handler returns true instead. So, .. .what is the best approach? Pass a flag to the write? Use a dialect for the write data block? | |
BrianH 14-Jan-2010 [1392] | Isn't the return value three-state, true false and none? |
Graham 14-Jan-2010 [1393x4] | I read you can only exit from the awake handler by returning true |
And just for reference http://www.imapwiki.org/FrontPage | |
Great progress ... was able to submit a fax using my new fax:// protocol. | |
The fax protocol is similar to ftp but uses port 4559, and uses additional commands | |
Andreas 14-Jan-2010 [1397x3] | basic IMAP4 is not much more difficult than POP3 |
bittorrent would be interesting indeed, as you can easily get _tons_ of network activity wh | |
which would be nice to exercise the R3 networking stack | |
Gregg 14-Jan-2010 [1400] | Graham, Andreas, Steeve, et al, this is great stuff you're doing. Thanks for your efforts. |
Andreas 14-Jan-2010 [1401x3] | well, now onto the final pop3 rewrite |
i've finally come up with a clean (imho) low-level interface: mbox: open pop3:// until [empty? msg: read mbox] close mbox | |
i.e. read on the pop3 port iterates thru all available messages, returning an empty series after the last message was read | |
Steeve 14-Jan-2010 [1404x2] | Andreas, normaly it's the behavior of COPY to iterate thru a port result |
i mean it is like that in R2 | |
Gregg 14-Jan-2010 [1406x2] | So 'msg is returned as a block? |
I was thinking of that too Steeve. COPY versus READ versus TAKE. | |
Steeve 14-Jan-2010 [1408] | Nice idea Gregg, READ could return the whole block (an COPY or TAKE just one line at time) |
Gregg 14-Jan-2010 [1409] | In this case, READ seems OK, and COPY would work as well, but not delete the mail on the server. |
Andreas 14-Jan-2010 [1410] | read returns a binary! |
Steeve 14-Jan-2010 [1411] | bu you could return a block if you wish ;-) |
Gregg 14-Jan-2010 [1412] | Ah, so this is a native READ, not a wrapper in your scheme. Got it. |
Andreas 14-Jan-2010 [1413x2] | i could return all messages in a block, yes |
i think i got the idea of READ iterating from some R3 example | |
Steeve 14-Jan-2010 [1415] | Andreas, where is your source, is that free ? |
Gregg 14-Jan-2010 [1416] | Then we need a callback mechanism for progress, if we read all in one shot. |
Andreas 14-Jan-2010 [1417x3] | http://bolka.at/share/prot-pop3.r |
[temporary url] | |
not yet licensed | |
Steeve 14-Jan-2010 [1420] | not need of a callback, you can return a block and populate the same block further. You see what i mean ? |
Andreas 14-Jan-2010 [1421] | interesting idea |
Gregg 14-Jan-2010 [1422] | I'd like to see it stay low level in the scheme, as Andreas has it, and add wrappers for higher level operations. |
Steeve 14-Jan-2010 [1423] | yep, i think so |
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