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ssh:// would be even cooler :-)

Who is going to pay for that! ??

... pay for what? Development of SSL?

yeah ..

Can't we just wrap any open-source stuff?

I would not mind it being an external module ...

Dunno ... outside my experience

yes pekr, there is possibility out there (putty sources being one), 
its just a question of some competent C coder taking some time to 
check it out and possibly wrap it as an extension and/or as a module 
to load in the host directly.

I don't have the time right now... too much work to do ...

(and I'm not sure I can be considered a competent C coder hehee)

Is puty correctly (in regards to R3) licensed? BSD or LGPL?

MIT

I don't care whether it's MIT or GPL ... as long as we can call it.

and its code is beautifull, it even has its own implementation of 
zlib... it rellies on no external lib or code.

Graham - how can't you care? If it woudl be GPL, we could not use 
it at all ...

We
 as a RT may not ... but "we" as a user can ...

No, we can't. GPL is GPL. You either fit the license, or you break 
it, no?

If I don't distibute I can do what I like ...

Better break the license than some glass.

GPL only applies to software that you distribute

Pekr, "just wrapping" other code is not easy to do right, and takes 
time and effort. Less time and effort than rewiting it from scratch 
in some cases (likely including SSL and SSH), but still not a trivial 
effort.

Graham, a scheme that you can't distribute is of extremely limited 
use, too limited to justify the effort involved.

in your personal opinion of course

If google developed such a scheme, and kept it within their organization, 
that would be in keeping with GPL .. no need to release source

what I was envisaging was someone linking the host code to eg.  a 
gpl tls library and releasing instructions on how to build it yourself.

I don't see what is wrong with that.

All right, too limited to justify *my* effort. Or anyone who doesn't 
work for a large company.

I guess I just may have to get that book C for dummies from the library 
after all

hehe

Max, where's that progress report ...??

progress on OpenGL?

I don't see the point in this anyways, since there are decent SSL 
and SSH libraries with permissive licenses. We can ignore GPL code.

Still, I don't want to disuade you from brushing up on your C :)

starting .. not brushing up

yes, OpenGL

Have you created a GUI to replace VID using open GL yet ?

as I explained to sunanda, while doing the OpenGL port I decided 
to build my C code analyzer/compiler/converter to make the process 
as complete and painless as possible...


but I've hit a wall and need a better unit testing engine to complete 
that and the OpenGL convertion.

so you're stuck ...?

What about Qt ?  Is that feasible?

I've used that before but its more pain than gain.

I'm not really stuck, i'm just building a highway instead of a small 
road... so it takes a bit more ground work.

but the result will be 3 tools instead of one... and about the same 
time to accomplish the end goal.

and then the ability to create complete C extensions for just about 
any C useable tools in a few minutes.

sounds like grandiose ideation !  :)

no its how every other platform does it.

using tools like SWIG.

I want to do it using REBOL end-to-end.

and since the C analyser has a programable emitter, you will be able 
to customize what it does.

What's the ETA for this?  Knowing that you start university this 
week ...

honestly I don't know, but its a funded project overall, so it is 
my current job.  which means it will happen for sure.


I would love to have some usefull OpenGL stuff working in february.