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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide

Graham
18-Jan-2010
[1639]
rebol doesn't seem to have a concept of a currernt directory as in 
windows ... where you can keep a directory for each volume mounted
BrianH
18-Jan-2010
[1640x3]
You are thinking R2. R3 does have a current directory.
The only thing about PWD that matters at all is relative filenames, 
and those are handled by native code, not mezzanine. But most of 
that native code is in the host since it's platform-specific.
Afaik, the R3 current directory is process-specific and is only one, 
not one per drive.
Graham
18-Jan-2010
[1643x3]
http://rebol.wik.is/Rebol3/Schemes/Imap4
Updated to version 0.0.2 
Logs into Imap server using cram-md5 if available
Switches to inbox
gets inbox status for unseen messages
Retrieves the first 3 messages
As Andreas notes, a write to the port inside the awake handler is 
fine .. but outside the handler, you have to do a wait on the port 
to do anything.

Also i found that without using a timeout value, it doesn't work 
for me 

So, I removed the 'read cmdport from write-cmdport function, and 
put the wait instead in the actor 'read ...
with a timeout
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1646x8]
I've got the imap protocol to the point where
1. can authenticate using cram-md5 ( reused r2 code )

2. can select different mailboxes ( unlike r2 where you have to select 
at time of opening the port )
3. length? 
4. Pick messages

However, I don't like this timeout which is there ..
2010.01.19 22:43:38 LOG5[4624:1256]: stunnel 4.29 on x86-pc-mingw32-gnu 
with OpenSSL 0.9.8l 5 Nov 2009

2010.01.19 22:43:38 LOG5[4624:1256]: Threading:WIN32 SSL:ENGINE Sockets:SELECT,IPv6

2010.01.19 22:43:38 LOG5[4624:5260]: No limit detected for the number 
of clients

2010.01.19 22:43:38 LOG3[4624:5260]: Error binding imaps to 0.0.0.0:993

2010.01.19 22:43:38 LOG3[4624:5260]: bind: Permission denied (WSAEACCES) 
(10013)

2010.01.19 22:43:38 LOG3[4624:5260]: Server is down
using run as admin
time to read the manual :(
I thought yahoo had free imap service .. but can't find it now :(
Nope ... not free.
Looks like AIM still has free IMAP ... signing up again!
Signed up, sent myself a couple of emails to that account, and then 
managed to login and download using the imap protocol
Pekr
19-Jan-2010
[1654]
Graham - you are becoming a networking Guru :-)
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1655x2]
Nah .. this stuff isn't at all hard.  Carl made scheme creation much 
easier than in r2
I suspect that the amount of detail put into making a bullet proof 
http scheme frightened everyone off!
Pekr
19-Jan-2010
[1657x2]
yes, probably ...
Any thoughts on the unification process of error handling, logging, 
timeouts, etc.?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1659]
Well, Carl is going to have to look at them .. but since my  schemes 
use the same method ... they are pretty unified :)
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[1660]
So, where's the best place to start... the one that best shows the 
basic template?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1661x2]
smtp I think ...
though that one is an early effort
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[1663x3]
So, not Daytime?
Graham: During your "journey" through this .. did you notice if there's 
a standard template that would make sense for various parts of the 
implementation?
Also, where and how would you like to see my comments?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1666x3]
I started with daytime, moved to smtp, and then ftp, fax and now 
imap.  I am using pretty much the same template with changes appropriate 
to the protocol.
I think docbase ... is the place
Daytime is too trivial to learn much from ... maybe FTP instead??
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[1669x2]
Ok.


My question above is whether there's a standard "core" that can be 
used across many protocols... a bit like net-utils or default protocol 
on R2.
I'll go with SMTP for now.  Looks simple enough.
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1671x3]
The only standard stuff I use is ...
1. net-log
2. some parse rules and bitsets
3. some authentication stuff like cram-md5


I also stack the commands sent to the port and pop them off as the 
port is async ...
I do this in ftp, fax and imap .. but I should go back and do this 
for smtp as well
I was thinking of using net-log as a way to hook into the low level 
activity of the protocol so that I can patch it as needed when interacting 
with a GUI ... eg, for progress meters
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[1674]
Ok, good... then I'll start with IMAP... since it's more recent.
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1675x2]
One thing that is not clear to me is that if you write to the port 

eg. write imap-port [ dialect stuff ]

and then 
wait imap-port


it can return immediately ... and you don't get anything unless you 
put in a timeout

eg. wait [ imap-port timeout ]
Ok, let me upload the latest version ....
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[1677]
Isn't that dependent on what you return from awake?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1678x3]
in wrote there is a 'read port .... but i don't get anyting back 
without the timeout
uploaded 0.0.3 

can login, select a mailbox, get length? and pick
It's at the bottom of the page as a file attachment
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[1681]
BTW, nice use of Deki wiki.
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1682x2]
It looks pretty but is slower than docbase :)
and there's no REBOL formatting .. so I use ruby or whatever ...
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[1684]
Runs really fast here. Where's the server?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[1685x4]
I think EC2
It was a free hosting offer I picked up a couple of years ago ...
That is Mindtouch were offering free wikis to people limited to 200Mb 
I think
Of course what I really like about it is that there is a REST based 
API that I can use with REBOL.