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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide

Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2107]
Any simple protocol example available, something like the R2 one 
long time on rebolforces, but for R3? I'd like to implement protocol 
above 'file schema. Any help/hint welcome.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2108]
Yes, check my github site
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2109x3]
I've looked at your shemes already, but all of the are network related. 
Some easy pedagogical example would help me :) how to ommit port 
numbers (maybe they are not neccesary) and especially how to manage 
subport in 'file. Anyway impressive bunch of schemes.
typo all of them
may the sheme be asynchrnous alhough file scheme is synchronous (I 
presume)?
Henrik
12-Aug-2010
[2112]
Robert made an overview of how ports work a while ago. I'm not sure 
if it's available publicly.
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2113]
file io is sync isn't it?
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2114x2]
Thats what I wrote
But ok sub port cannot be unleashed from above schema right?
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2116x2]
why not?
the main port is just an abstraction .. to allow you to work on the 
real port
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2118]
Thats what I ask, may the scheme be asynchronous when low level port 
is synronous and we dont use tasks yet?
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2119]
I don't think so
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[2120x2]
I guess we'll need device extensions for briging the gap.
briging = bridging
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2122]
Has anybody tried some file related scheme? zip// or somethink like 
was in disscussion?
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2123]
I'm missing what is the point?  the network schemes are written to 
try and emulate file io ...
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[2124]
access to RIF?
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2125]
Graham I like to write a scheme for my mini RIF implementation yes 
maxim
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[2126]
direct DB table access using read/write would be VERY powerfull  
:-)
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2127]
Ie write number to port get record back, write record to port get 
number back for the very beginning
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[2128x2]
make-scheme [
	name: 'foo
	title: "FOO Protocol"
	spec: make system/standard/port-spec-head []
	actor: [
		open: func [port [port!]] [
			print 'open
make-scheme [
	name: 'foo
	title: "FOO Protocol"
	spec: make system/standard/port-spec-head []
	actor: [
		open: func [port [port!]] [
			print 'open
		]
		read: func [port [port!]] [
			print 'read
		]
	]
]

f: open foo://bar.baz
read f
hmm, ignore the first duplicate part of the paste
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2130]
good andreas muchas gracias you know I'm a beginner
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2131]
There's a typo there .. FOO should be RIF  :)
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2132x2]
should a file to be implemented into read for real reading? (how 
to)
into read actor
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[2134x2]
yes. you can just use normal READ to read from a file within the 
read actor
if you want to keep a file open, you can keep port-local state in 
port/state
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2136x2]
OK thanks I'll try my own, anyway is there any distinction if fileport 
is open/closed? after close the information is still open
ie port looks the same open or closed and open? returns true,  more 
the port cannot be deleted/removed currious
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2138]
What's the current state of RIF?
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[2139x2]
CLOSE on a foo port will be a no-op, unless you implement a close 
actor.
Same for OPEN?.
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2141x2]
graham I've commented it in DB chat , to be honest I thin Carl would 
do it better but I cannot wait more
andreas missunderstanding when f: open %file close f open? f returns 
true
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2143]
we can't wait for Carl to do everything .. just have to be prepared 
to discard our work if he rewrites it!
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2144]
exact
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2145]
you'd write your own 'open? actor
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2146x2]
only for open more files at once
my RIF needs to work with double files simoutaneously
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[2148]
Pavel, not for me:

>> f: open %.vimrc 
>> open? f
== true
>> close f
>> open? f
== false
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2149x3]
I'll check it
you are right but then f cannot be unset (removed) but I can live 
with it
andreas your open wont do its job I'm sorry
Steeve
13-Aug-2010
[2152]
Check this http://sites.google.com/site/rebolish/Home/idx.r
Pavel
13-Aug-2010
[2153]
thanks steve for inspiration, may I know why you use actor* and not 
regular actor?
Steeve
13-Aug-2010
[2154]
several reasons
Pavel
13-Aug-2010
[2155]
Anyway I'm partially succesfull with rif:// scheme, I can open multiople 
files from port: open rif://data/file, I can close multi files with 
clos port, I can write port to-binary "some record". What is difficult 
is to pass argument (number of wanted record) to read actor. it seems 
read acor accept only port. Any hint?
Steeve
13-Aug-2010
[2156]
I use copy and copy/part to real several records