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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide

Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2113]
file io is sync isn't it?
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2114x2]
Thats what I wrote
But ok sub port cannot be unleashed from above schema right?
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2116x2]
why not?
the main port is just an abstraction .. to allow you to work on the 
real port
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2118]
Thats what I ask, may the scheme be asynchronous when low level port 
is synronous and we dont use tasks yet?
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2119]
I don't think so
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[2120x2]
I guess we'll need device extensions for briging the gap.
briging = bridging
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2122]
Has anybody tried some file related scheme? zip// or somethink like 
was in disscussion?
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2123]
I'm missing what is the point?  the network schemes are written to 
try and emulate file io ...
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[2124]
access to RIF?
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2125]
Graham I like to write a scheme for my mini RIF implementation yes 
maxim
Maxim
12-Aug-2010
[2126]
direct DB table access using read/write would be VERY powerfull  
:-)
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2127]
Ie write number to port get record back, write record to port get 
number back for the very beginning
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[2128x2]
make-scheme [
	name: 'foo
	title: "FOO Protocol"
	spec: make system/standard/port-spec-head []
	actor: [
		open: func [port [port!]] [
			print 'open
make-scheme [
	name: 'foo
	title: "FOO Protocol"
	spec: make system/standard/port-spec-head []
	actor: [
		open: func [port [port!]] [
			print 'open
		]
		read: func [port [port!]] [
			print 'read
		]
	]
]

f: open foo://bar.baz
read f
hmm, ignore the first duplicate part of the paste
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2130]
good andreas muchas gracias you know I'm a beginner
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2131]
There's a typo there .. FOO should be RIF  :)
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2132x2]
should a file to be implemented into read for real reading? (how 
to)
into read actor
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[2134x2]
yes. you can just use normal READ to read from a file within the 
read actor
if you want to keep a file open, you can keep port-local state in 
port/state
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2136x2]
OK thanks I'll try my own, anyway is there any distinction if fileport 
is open/closed? after close the information is still open
ie port looks the same open or closed and open? returns true,  more 
the port cannot be deleted/removed currious
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2138]
What's the current state of RIF?
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[2139x2]
CLOSE on a foo port will be a no-op, unless you implement a close 
actor.
Same for OPEN?.
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2141x2]
graham I've commented it in DB chat , to be honest I thin Carl would 
do it better but I cannot wait more
andreas missunderstanding when f: open %file close f open? f returns 
true
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2143]
we can't wait for Carl to do everything .. just have to be prepared 
to discard our work if he rewrites it!
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2144]
exact
Graham
12-Aug-2010
[2145]
you'd write your own 'open? actor
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2146x2]
only for open more files at once
my RIF needs to work with double files simoutaneously
Andreas
12-Aug-2010
[2148]
Pavel, not for me:

>> f: open %.vimrc 
>> open? f
== true
>> close f
>> open? f
== false
Pavel
12-Aug-2010
[2149x3]
I'll check it
you are right but then f cannot be unset (removed) but I can live 
with it
andreas your open wont do its job I'm sorry
Steeve
13-Aug-2010
[2152]
Check this http://sites.google.com/site/rebolish/Home/idx.r
Pavel
13-Aug-2010
[2153]
thanks steve for inspiration, may I know why you use actor* and not 
regular actor?
Steeve
13-Aug-2010
[2154]
several reasons
Pavel
13-Aug-2010
[2155]
Anyway I'm partially succesfull with rif:// scheme, I can open multiople 
files from port: open rif://data/file, I can close multi files with 
clos port, I can write port to-binary "some record". What is difficult 
is to pass argument (number of wanted record) to read actor. it seems 
read acor accept only port. Any hint?
Steeve
13-Aug-2010
[2156x2]
I use copy and copy/part to real several records
I don't use read as actor because of that
Pavel
13-Aug-2010
[2158x2]
It is only different name of function or has it some deeper reason? 
(read malfunction?)
Inside is read/seek/part used of course
Steeve
13-Aug-2010
[2160]
deeper reason, you can't add refinement to existing functions (overlapped 
as actors).
I just think copy is more suited to do so (because of /part)
Pavel
13-Aug-2010
[2161x2]
For RIF more suitable names would be PUT/GET as in basic key-value 
stores (memcache f.e.) I can try this convention
Anyway many thanks Steve for hints!