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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide

Pekr
7-Jan-2010
[295]
don't know ...
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[296x3]
Not much.
If you want to suggest a plan for better console, please do.
It would not require much on the reblib side to support a console 
-- most of the code is on the host side.
Pekr
7-Jan-2010
[299]
R2 console code is not reusable?
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[300]
The necessary reblib calls would be for things like word completion, 
since the symbol table is internal to the lib.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[301]
ditto
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[302]
R2 could be used... but, I had "imagined" there were better packages 
that we could use and get a full featured console.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[303x2]
well I don't use word completion ... didn't even know it existed 
for files
Le's be practical and reuse R2
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[305]
Is that the most practical?  What ever happened to operating systems 
that provide a real console lib?
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[306]
the most practical is to make it usable for users and optimize later 
on
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[307]
Certainly, we can use our 1998ish console code to start. But, seems 
a bit backward.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[308x2]
lacking cut and paste as now is somewhat even more backward!
Feels like the original console of 1998 which also lacked cut and 
paste if  I recall correctly
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[310]
What, you can't write everything in one line?
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[311]
hehe
Steeve
7-Jan-2010
[312]
uhuh
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[313]
writing a scheme in one line ... nope
Steeve
7-Jan-2010
[314]
and what about a graphic console (with gobs) ?
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[315]
You paste schemes?!
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[316]
you're being silly
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[317]
S: that was my goal.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[318]
I'm responding the same
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[319]
C: I have, for testing, it worked very well in R2
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[320x3]
Actually I was trying to paste in your code samples from the wiki 
...
you need to reformat them all as one liners
lol
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[323x3]
Yes, I have same issue on bug testing from curecode.
Of course, if that's all you really need, then just write a do-clip 
function.
But, I suspect people want some other features, no?
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[326]
who cares what others want .. this is Graham's group :)
Kaj
7-Jan-2010
[327x2]
Current OSes have console libs, but they're different depending on 
the platform
So the issue is whether to standardise or diversify
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[329]
The windows console in Windows 7 is very odd ... if you maximize 
it , it shifts to the left hand side of the screen.  Try and move 
it and is shrinks back again :(
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[330]
I think that is the role of the host.  people with experience in 
OS specific console code should adapt their host code to use it.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[331]
the dos shell does the same
Henrik
7-Jan-2010
[332]
ah, so no progress there from win95.
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[333]
Amazing how multibillion dollar companies don't maintain basic utilities.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[334]
so, if you want to read the examples on a web page ( usuaally placed 
on the left ) and have an maximized console open .. you can't see 
both
Kaj
7-Jan-2010
[335]
As long as there's no meaningful competition...
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[336]
Luckily my secondary LCD screen has arrived now ...
Kaj
7-Jan-2010
[337]
Rich organisations and people are rich, for one reason, by not spending 
it
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[338]
Well, no one will reject it outright for bad console.
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[339]
Graham... did you try the screen? mine works its really cool.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[340x2]
Yes .. I have tried it
Needs 10 points of touch to set it up corectly
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[342]
Anway, we can go the custom route on the console.  But, we'll need 
help with that on Linux (whatever desktop) and OS X, etc.
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[343x2]
yes... the basic code is there, which anyone can improve.
Carl, did you get lib loading to work properly on OSX ?