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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide

Carl
7-Jan-2010
[324x2]
Of course, if that's all you really need, then just write a do-clip 
function.
But, I suspect people want some other features, no?
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[326]
who cares what others want .. this is Graham's group :)
Kaj
7-Jan-2010
[327x2]
Current OSes have console libs, but they're different depending on 
the platform
So the issue is whether to standardise or diversify
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[329]
The windows console in Windows 7 is very odd ... if you maximize 
it , it shifts to the left hand side of the screen.  Try and move 
it and is shrinks back again :(
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[330]
I think that is the role of the host.  people with experience in 
OS specific console code should adapt their host code to use it.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[331]
the dos shell does the same
Henrik
7-Jan-2010
[332]
ah, so no progress there from win95.
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[333]
Amazing how multibillion dollar companies don't maintain basic utilities.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[334]
so, if you want to read the examples on a web page ( usuaally placed 
on the left ) and have an maximized console open .. you can't see 
both
Kaj
7-Jan-2010
[335]
As long as there's no meaningful competition...
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[336]
Luckily my secondary LCD screen has arrived now ...
Kaj
7-Jan-2010
[337]
Rich organisations and people are rich, for one reason, by not spending 
it
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[338]
Well, no one will reject it outright for bad console.
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[339]
Graham... did you try the screen? mine works its really cool.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[340x2]
Yes .. I have tried it
Needs 10 points of touch to set it up corectly
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[342]
Anway, we can go the custom route on the console.  But, we'll need 
help with that on Linux (whatever desktop) and OS X, etc.
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[343x2]
yes... the basic code is there, which anyone can improve.
Carl, did you get lib loading to work properly on OSX ?
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[345]
Now back to basic documentation ...  have you allocated any spare 
cycles to this?
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[346]
G: yes... and more than spare cycles. But, the list is long.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[347]
note to self .. update rebolweek to say that Carl is restoring the 
1998 r1 console to R3alpha ....
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[348]
Not r1. R2!
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[349]
schemes would be a nice place to start .... we need to get smtp, 
and pop done.
Kaj
7-Jan-2010
[350]
G, that's what you just requested, wasn't it?
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[351]
Ok, r2 then .. but that wasn't 1998.
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[352x2]
true.
M: ran into holiday schedule on OS X libs.
Henrik
7-Jan-2010
[354]
Graham, perfect for a third party to do (and has been for about a 
year).
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[355]
Bingo. Keep in mind that Gab wrote HTTP based on those wiki docs 
for scheme.
Maxim
7-Jan-2010
[356]
I stopped working on my C compiler during the holidays... I actually 
took real vacations this year.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[357]
And we're not Gabriele ...
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[358x2]
Gab succeeded, but came up with a few questions on buffering.
Who's not Gabriele?
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[360x2]
No one has written any more schemes since 2007 ... the logical conclusion 
is that the docs are lacking :)
Or, we are all lazy buggers
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[362x3]
Ok... well... here's the plan on that.
I need to move them into the R3 docs... so I'll polish them up during 
that.
Throw in a few example schemes like finger or whois.
Steeve
7-Jan-2010
[365]
So mean Graham, i wrote the virtual-block scheme but it"s not a protocol
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[366]
Yes, some sample simple network schemes
Henrik
7-Jan-2010
[367]
We will need FTP. That is going to be a pain, but someone has to 
do it.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[368]
Well, as Newton said .. got to start somewhere
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[369x2]
Sterling Newton said that?
Man, I miss that guy.
Graham
7-Jan-2010
[371x2]
No,  Isaac Newton
I think he phrased it .. something about standing on the shoulders 
of giants or something
Carl
7-Jan-2010
[373]
Anyway, I agree with this as a priority because it allows greater 
concurrent contribution to R3 base code.