World: r3wp
[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide
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Carl 7-Jan-2010 [324x2] | Of course, if that's all you really need, then just write a do-clip function. |
But, I suspect people want some other features, no? | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [326] | who cares what others want .. this is Graham's group :) |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [327x2] | Current OSes have console libs, but they're different depending on the platform |
So the issue is whether to standardise or diversify | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [329] | The windows console in Windows 7 is very odd ... if you maximize it , it shifts to the left hand side of the screen. Try and move it and is shrinks back again :( |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [330] | I think that is the role of the host. people with experience in OS specific console code should adapt their host code to use it. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [331] | the dos shell does the same |
Henrik 7-Jan-2010 [332] | ah, so no progress there from win95. |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [333] | Amazing how multibillion dollar companies don't maintain basic utilities. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [334] | so, if you want to read the examples on a web page ( usuaally placed on the left ) and have an maximized console open .. you can't see both |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [335] | As long as there's no meaningful competition... |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [336] | Luckily my secondary LCD screen has arrived now ... |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [337] | Rich organisations and people are rich, for one reason, by not spending it |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [338] | Well, no one will reject it outright for bad console. |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [339] | Graham... did you try the screen? mine works its really cool. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [340x2] | Yes .. I have tried it |
Needs 10 points of touch to set it up corectly | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [342] | Anway, we can go the custom route on the console. But, we'll need help with that on Linux (whatever desktop) and OS X, etc. |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [343x2] | yes... the basic code is there, which anyone can improve. |
Carl, did you get lib loading to work properly on OSX ? | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [345] | Now back to basic documentation ... have you allocated any spare cycles to this? |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [346] | G: yes... and more than spare cycles. But, the list is long. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [347] | note to self .. update rebolweek to say that Carl is restoring the 1998 r1 console to R3alpha .... |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [348] | Not r1. R2! |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [349] | schemes would be a nice place to start .... we need to get smtp, and pop done. |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [350] | G, that's what you just requested, wasn't it? |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [351] | Ok, r2 then .. but that wasn't 1998. |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [352x2] | true. |
M: ran into holiday schedule on OS X libs. | |
Henrik 7-Jan-2010 [354] | Graham, perfect for a third party to do (and has been for about a year). |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [355] | Bingo. Keep in mind that Gab wrote HTTP based on those wiki docs for scheme. |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [356] | I stopped working on my C compiler during the holidays... I actually took real vacations this year. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [357] | And we're not Gabriele ... |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [358x2] | Gab succeeded, but came up with a few questions on buffering. |
Who's not Gabriele? | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [360x2] | No one has written any more schemes since 2007 ... the logical conclusion is that the docs are lacking :) |
Or, we are all lazy buggers | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [362x3] | Ok... well... here's the plan on that. |
I need to move them into the R3 docs... so I'll polish them up during that. | |
Throw in a few example schemes like finger or whois. | |
Steeve 7-Jan-2010 [365] | So mean Graham, i wrote the virtual-block scheme but it"s not a protocol |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [366] | Yes, some sample simple network schemes |
Henrik 7-Jan-2010 [367] | We will need FTP. That is going to be a pain, but someone has to do it. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [368] | Well, as Newton said .. got to start somewhere |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [369x2] | Sterling Newton said that? |
Man, I miss that guy. | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [371x2] | No, Isaac Newton |
I think he phrased it .. something about standing on the shoulders of giants or something | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [373] | Anyway, I agree with this as a priority because it allows greater concurrent contribution to R3 base code. |
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