World: r3wp

problems?

no, just standard procedure

Ok, latest host-kit compiled. Rich-text now included.

Good news for all men

Cyphre and other :  LOL so it's all about monney ... your are a bunch 
of liars and pretenders ...  and you think how much it will take 
to get  R3 done ? Even if i give you ten thousand dollars i'm absolutly 
sure rebol will remain your last priority ...

and that's the truth and nothing but the truth and saying it's a 
monney main reason it's a cheap excuse. YOU WANT MY MONNEY MAKE A 
FOUNDATION PUT 100% OF REBOL CODE IN GPL AND THEN YOU WILL GET A 
CHANCE TO GET MY MONNE .In the current state no way ... plain and 
simple you are not anough apealing ....

Robert absolutly not and more i spend time here less i want to participate 
in anything .... that's how you motivate contributions...

shadwolf - maybe you should stop accussing guys, who try to do something 
for us. It is not about the money itself, it is about the manpower. 
We have to prioritise things, and money can make help here. As for 
me, I always fighted against - now you can code it yourself attitude 
- that simply sucks. But - in opposition to the past, we actually 
can let it happen - if you contract some developer. In the past, 
all sources were hidden from us ...

Pekr  WHAT HAVE YOU DONE THE PAST MONTH TO TRY TO GET ME CONVINCED 
TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROJECT ?


Any time I try get a serrious conversation here about  where are 
we going or how things are done i get cheap lame excuses and I'm 
tired of it ! 


I stated a long ago the current phylosophy in communautary contributions 
don't fit with me (it was in may 2005)  you can't sit on 2 chairs 
at same time and expect to be stable.


You can't say rebol is a commercial trade marked business  and don't 
pay  the contributors and give them credits for their contributions 
.

You can't say a part of it is commercial an other part is free that's 
ethically not right. 

That's my way to see it ...


Then i won't participate to a project where the all mighty god fater 
can come out of nowhere and trash my month of hard work in a blink 
of an eye without any justification.


I won't participate in a team with people that don't want to share 
knowledge.


I won't participate in a team where people can take in hostage the 
whole project to get  money for themselves. 


I won't participate in a project where i can't  do any proposal with 
being insulted...

Did I made myself clear ?

and that is the kind of  community YOU built the past 10 years and 
that why so many left it ... Face it and make the changes that needs 
to be done.

shadwolf -> Vent.

you can add :


I won't paticipate in a project where there is not global plan and 
only a short term view and a one shot tries stack of things.

shadwolf, please continue in ~Vent group.

anton that way you can keep your illusions and remain in dream land 
where everyone is happy gentle and smart ?

as stated you got me to the ~vent group to get me out of your sight 
and avoid the discussion... So predictable.

shadwolf -- this group is for <For discussion of the R3 GUI> (see 
first post).
You are posting about the whole of R3 and its development cycle.
This is not the appropriate group for that.

Please switch to a group that is on topic for that.....Or use one 
of the generic ones, such as ~vent as Anton has suggesfed.

sunanda if you send me read the first meassges here i will send you 
read the first messages i made with the questions i made and the 
repy I got from the intervenant that way the wanabe dictator you 
want to be will see that if actually we seems to be out of topic 
that's related to the way people treat my asks.


Sunanda  If i was speaking ot jesus I wouldn't be trearted that way 
but I would still be out of topic ...

for my actual of topic reply to you will i get banned sunanda ?

Too few people have ever been banned for there to be hard-and-fast 
rules.

Approximatelt.....Combining [off-topic] with [personal abuse] and 
[failure to engage in dialog] would be the main markers for someone 
heading for a ban.

so ban me you will prouve you can't stand a conversation and opose 
true arguments...

And it won't change the actual noone cares about rebol situation 
and less about rebol3 GUI...

rich text is out where can i see it ? 

Why no one comment it ? is it so awfull that noone wants to talk 
about it in fear of having the treatment shadwolf got ?

No one commented on it, because it is _not_ "out" yet.

robert said yesterday "Ok, latest host-kit compiled. Rich-text now 
included."....

I don't know guys you have a boring shadwolf  clamining rich text 
stuff you insult him you say he is nothing but a jerk a troll etc 
but anyway the week later you have it ready (proof that it was a 
point of interrest for you too ) then you don't say to shadwolf hey 
look at this maybe that will get you involved with us ? 


Naaaaaaaaah it's so much more fun to insult me and act like kids 
....

Please keep the ranting out of here, and stick to more approriate 
groups for that.

Regarding the only factual statement in the above: "compiled" != 
"released".

andreas ok so why announcing it's ready if it's not ?

No one announced that it is ready. Robert said it compiled; nothing 
more, nothing less.

why compiling things that don't work ? Ok so i should have understoud 
it more like rich-text widget is done now and it compiles well so 
on next release at that time you will be able to experience it. We 
are impatient to get your comments on this new module.

would have been better said that way indeed ...

You are interpreting far too much into things. No one said that the 
rich-text widget is done. Robert said it compiled (presumably for 
him). That's a progress report, nothing else. The progress, presumable, 
being that the richt-text stuff not only compiled for the original 
author (Cyphre? Henrik?) but for Robert as well.

but you can compile only some code ? or have we changed century and 
now you can compile empty conceptual ideas ?

Once again: you wanted to know wether the rich text stuff is out 
yet. I told you that this is not so. I think that concludes this 
discussion.

Rich text: Carl's tweet on 4-aug-2010 is the published source:

<We are currently converting the richtext dialect to work with the 
new host-kit.> 
http://twitter.com/rebol3/status/20300043616

thank you sunanda ... but then we don't have any idea of the converting 
lenght ... ok so the info are ''at August 14 th  2010, the Rich text 
dialect is adapted to the new project GUI using host kit . And Robert 
could compile it properly"

and i think if i try to discuss the dialect content in the new host 
kit i will be once again of topic ...

off topic ...

Cyphre, you GUI update inside a network looks similar to what I did 
... but which didn't work!  Ok, time for me to try again.

All my GUI updates occurred after network activity completed.

Graham , you have to send small chunks of the data (according to 
Carls notes for the R3 schemes the chunk should be smaller than 32Kb..this 
is true othervise the port connection 'hangs' for me if the chunks 
are bigger ) and do the update during that periods when you need. 
That's all the magic.

My data was a lot smaller than 32k so I think i have some other issue

Just in relation to the binding issues being discussed in core, how 
does R3 gui work ... are named gobs in the global context or private?

they are in a private context

so how does one access them?

this is a problem that needs to be solved. I don't remember the exact 
path inside the GUIE context to the faces.

however the context privacy feature should be kept. it's very useful 
with multiple instances of the same layout.

sure ...

But I was wondering how to access the faces by name

inside the layout, you are fine:

view [f: field button do [set-face f "boo"]]


Outside, you need to go through the GUIE context, but I don't recall 
the path.

I think what would be neat would be a way to access widgets by index 
...