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Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3317] | completely missing the point, as usual. |
shadwolf 18-Sep-2010 [3318] | the effect are cool the overall thing is grey what i'm missing ? |
Pekr 18-Sep-2010 [3319] | Shadwolf - you are missing the fact, that 1) it is not final skin 2) anyone can create alternate skin 3) Henrik just pointed out there is some difference, when box model is used ... :-) |
Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3320x2] | The skin work is minimal, as there is only enough done to work the material system into the GUI. |
(do you really think I would release a GUI that looks like that?) | |
Pekr 18-Sep-2010 [3322] | Henrik - what is main difference in box vs non-box model? What does it mean "non box-model" at all? |
shadwolf 18-Sep-2010 [3323] | Pekr na i know it's not the ended thing I repeat the overall widgets are cool their organisation is cool but its the grey scale .. 2) anyone ? not me at least since people are paid for that the least they can do is do a professional default skin ... Henrik i judge what is shown that's you don't want to be commented don't show imperfect not ended things ... |
Pekr 18-Sep-2010 [3324x2] | btw - why are buttons so long, but thin? :-) |
shadwolf - dunno if Robert proceeded, but someone sent him a contact to some cool guy doing some GUI designs. We will see, if anything will happen in that area. Robert? :-) | |
shadwolf 18-Sep-2010 [3326] | cause the picture size had to be small and since their is auto resizing that means nothing ... |
Pekr 18-Sep-2010 [3327] | box-model - probably as with CSS, borders, margins, etc. being precisely defined and counted for? |
Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3328] | pekr, yes exactly. the box model was turned off when the GUI was moved to the host kit. now it's turned back on. |
Pekr 18-Sep-2010 [3329] | auto-resizing is good ... if it works as expected of course. I liked Carl's model - not the model, but that it did what I mostly expected it to do (by examples posted). So far R3 GUI does not work for me yet (button sticking itself to bottom left corner for e.g.), but it is most probably very preliminary to do any judgements right now ... |
Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3330] | pekr, thin buttons: 1. the grouping of buttons specify 3 columns 2. the width of the checkboxes is the minimum as shown. I'm not sure why that's set so high. if it were smaller, the window would automatically also be narrower. |
shadwolf 18-Sep-2010 [3331] | see when i look at those last posts here that reflect exactly why i don't want to use R3 GUI for the moment most of things are not done or disactivated ... What is made this week can be undo the next week... that's in too much work in progress stage... |
Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3332] | shadwolf, the GUI is released as is, so the community can help find bugs. |
Pekr 18-Sep-2010 [3333x2] | I think that widgets should keep some metrics/aspect ratio (hmm, on the other side, I can imagine square button, e.g. when you are simulating some industry panel design, but that could be solved by separate style) |
shadwolf - just be fair to guys .... when they don't release stuff, we complain, when they release some preliminary stuff, we complain too :-) | |
shadwolf 18-Sep-2010 [3335x5] | Maxim good idea to take as entry point for rendering display with other graphical libraries area the Gob/IMAGE even if it's some what extrem at least using that kind of binding you can keep using natural R3 GUI and even use draw over the rendering. I'm surprise Carl doesn't see the point ... |
Pekr no i never coplained cause i didn't got some half made work in progress to test ... I just complain to get the direction to know what would be the futur and to know the agenda ... that's all !!! I don't caore of host kit i don't care of the widgets anyway if it doesn't fit my taste I'm grown anough to do my own widgets anytime like i did with R2 /VID | |
see on this you don't have to convince me ... | |
bu this time i won't share them :) | |
too easy you pillage us the free workers then you claim money I don't want to play that way :) | |
Pekr 18-Sep-2010 [3340] | are you saying you are doing some R3 widgets? Cool then. Show us at least screenshots :-) |
Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3341x3] | http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/r3.exe The latest A107 with TO-IMAGE fix. |
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/r3-gui.r3 Newer version too. Sorry about the ballooning in size, but this is due to a change in the build system. | |
Please download both files for local use, thanks. | |
Claude 18-Sep-2010 [3344] | hello, first thanks for sharing your work. but r3.exe need r3lib.dll. where i can find it ? |
Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3345x2] | oh, sorry, one sec. |
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/r3lib.dll | |
Claude 18-Sep-2010 [3347x3] | thank you very much |
not working :-( ............customized 404 error page | |
ok working now ;-) | |
Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3350x2] | ok, there is a bug (surprise), that I've been able to trigger once by accident. I've not been able to do it more than once, but we need a way to reproduce it. |
what I did was create a GUI similar to this one: view [ panel 1 [check] panel 1 [button button button] ] When you resize this vertically by a few pixels, the bottom panel will resize incorrectly. That is known and will be fixed. What I managed to do, was to either move or resize the window in a way, that would cause resizing to get stuck in a loop (!), so it goes up and down in size by a few pixels vertically on its own, and the window just sits there shaking up and down in size. If possible, we would like some help with reproducing that. | |
Gregg 18-Sep-2010 [3352] | Can you resize programmatically, to do it in discrete steps in an attempt to find the combination of values that trigger it? |
Henrik 18-Sep-2010 [3353] | I haven't tried it, and I'm not sure it's a specific size that does it, but more a series of events. The testing system is not yet in place to do it this way. |
Claude 18-Sep-2010 [3354] | thank you henrik for your sharing . i will test it |
Rebolek 18-Sep-2010 [3355] | It's gray because I tweak colors only when I have nothing better to do. Once the GUI functionality is finished, there will be some simple color/style designer written in R3GUI to make some decent look for it. |
Ladislav 20-Sep-2010 [3356x2] | Shadwolf: "too easy you pillage us the free workers then you claim money I don't want to play that way :)" - I wish I could (as I cannot, sigh) make you pay for the new code you get for free asking for the amount corresponding to the "word of mouth effort" you done in this chat |
In my opinion, you not only aren't a "free worker", but, actually, you are very costly in taking time and effort to deny the nonsense you are spreading here | |
Pekr 21-Sep-2010 [3358x3] | Any news in R3GUI area? |
Henrik - to your above code example - what I don't like is, why the resize system dictates me, how to shring the window. When I want to maximize a window, it should not do so only in horizontal axis, but also in vertical one. That's just my opinion, but I would find it more predictable. | |
And I can still observe the same behaviour, when I maximize the window of "view [title "test" button "ok" do [print "ok"]]" - the button keeps attached to left bottom corner - why? :-) | |
Henrik 21-Sep-2010 [3361] | Pekr, I'm not sure this is supposed to be standard behavior. As I mentioned earlier, I think it's set too aggressively. |
Pekr 21-Sep-2010 [3362] | To your above example - I am not able to reproduce the behaviour you observed ... |
Henrik 21-Sep-2010 [3363] | Pekr, that would be because the title scales vertically, while the button doesn't. |
Rebolek 21-Sep-2010 [3364] | Nothing specially new, right now I'm bugfixing some styles. |
Henrik 21-Sep-2010 [3365] | I'm working on the build system right now. |
Pekr 21-Sep-2010 [3366] | re build system - will we be able, in future, to bundle only styles being found in source-code, or selected ones? I can imagine having library of tens of widgets/styles, while my app might not require all of them? So far, R3-GUI is still small, so it does not matter, hence regard my question being just theoretical :-) |
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