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[!REBOL3 GUI]

GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6401x3]
Downloaded everything ... the all styles looks very impressive.
Great work guys
When you hover over a tab, the indicator changes to red.  The green 
indicator indicates the current tab, right?  So, you actually lose 
information.
Ladislav
4-Mar-2011
[6404]
We know about it, will be updated next time
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6405]
Would it hard to create a different indicator of what the current 
tab is . .. such as a higher tab?
Ladislav
4-Mar-2011
[6406]
That is what Cyphre prefers, I am curious which approach "prevails"
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6407x2]
I think a higher tab has more visual impact
and is closer to the metaphor of pulling a tab out of a filing cabinet... 
in real life tabs don't change color
Ladislav
4-Mar-2011
[6409]
yes, in real life buttons change colour neither when you point at 
them
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6410x3]
actually it changes red to indicate that when you click it, it closes 
tab (which doesn't work right now, as I see)
maybe it should show cross instead
higher tab for active is good idea
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6413]
Hmm... electronic switches which are physical objects do change color 
if so designed
Ladislav
4-Mar-2011
[6414x2]
my preferences regarding changing the looks of elements you are pointing 
at are different anyway
electronic switches which are physical objects do change color if 
so designed

- I guess, that it does not suffice to point at them, you have to 
at least touch them,don't you?
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6416]
Yes, but my laptop has touch enabled
Ladislav
4-Mar-2011
[6417]
...and, when they change colour, they actually change their state, 
don't they?
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6418x3]
I'd also prefer to lose the line under the tab so it looks like _H_ 
instead of ___
Yes, there's a state change
for the active tab
Ladislav
4-Mar-2011
[6421]
So, that is the difference between "do not change when pointed at" 
versus "do change when touched/pressed"
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6422]
lose the line - I agree but in that case the content of tab must 
have same background as tab-button so it will blend toghether
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6423]
regarding difference .. the selected indicator should be different 
from the hover indicator
Ladislav
4-Mar-2011
[6424]
no doubt, as far as my preferences go
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6425x3]
well, I'm used to the line being there .. no big deal
the other argument is  that a tiny led indicating current tab which 
uses 5% approx of the tab surface vs the 100% if you raise the height 
of the tab
or 130% of the unselected tab size
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6428x2]
current tab buttons are to big for my taste, so some changes to their 
look will be done definitely.
to=too
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6430x2]
Agree .. .maybe 1/3 of current size
What's the current font size?
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6432]
I think 12 and bold
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6433x4]
btw, the same argument applies to the toggle button ... a tiny led 
to indicate state does not have a large visual impact
Some of those color combinations I find hard to read ..like the white 
text on a gray/white button background
ooops... I crashed rebol3 .. in the table, I clicked on "2" to clear 
the table, and then the down arrow .. and it's crashed
Script: "Include" Version: $Id$ Date: 27-Oct-2010/9:57:54+2:00

** Script error: skip does not allow none! for its series argument

** Where: unless actor all foreach do-style if if actor all foreach 
do-style act

or all foreach do-style actor all foreach do-style either if either 
do-event do-

event either -apply- wake-up loop -apply- wait do-events if view 
catch either ei
ther -apply- do
** Near: unless any [
    not arg/1
    0 >= (pos: arg/1 - parent/sta...
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6437]
I see...
Ladislav
4-Mar-2011
[6438]
hmm, interesting, it did not crash here, when I tried the same
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6439]
No, not crashing again.
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6440]
It's very hard to reproduce. But I found it, so it will be fixed 
in next release.
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6441x2]
How to reproduce?
( fix by allow none for skip argument! )
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6443]
I clicked like mad on everything ;)
BrianH
4-Mar-2011
[6444]
That would be bad, Graham. We want that error triggered, or else 
it would be more difficult to find.
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6445x2]
to reproduce it I think you need one line selected and then change 
filter to show empty table.
but it's now fixed anyway for next release.
GrahamC
4-Mar-2011
[6447x3]
yes, crashed again for me
I like your testing method!
sort of genetic testing algorithm
Rebolek
4-Mar-2011
[6450]
:)