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[!REBOL3]

Graham
9-Apr-2010
[2032]
No, no errors on submission.
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[2033]
Which blog?
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[2034]
R3 but looks like you're now removed them
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[2035]
Yes, ok, both blogs now.
Graham
9-Apr-2010
[2036x2]
OT, what about a 64 bit R2?
So we can install on Windows 2008 64  bit ....
Carl
9-Apr-2010
[2038]
WG (wrong group)
Graham
10-Apr-2010
[2039x2]
Now that the iPad is out .. this must surely drive Android based 
slates as well.
So, no hostkit for Android yet?
BrianH
10-Apr-2010
[2041x3]
No hostkit or R3 for ARM yet.
Android (more recently) has a way for you to write native code plugins, 
to supplement the Java code that apps are written in. It seems to 
me that this would be a good way to get R3 integrated.
Don't know if you can run native-only apps on Android - haven't heard 
of anyone doing that.
Graham
13-Apr-2010
[2044x2]
Using my R3 fax script, I was able to login to a hylafax server in 
Washington from here in NZ, and send a fax across town!
The hylafax server is using Fax over IP ( comcast ) so I suspect 
that's why I was not able to fax back to me in NZ
Pekr
13-Apr-2010
[2046x2]
Nice achievement in regards to R3 :-) Btw - it seems Carl is working 
on turning View into Extension - http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/view/graphics-ext.html
Delayed Extensions - http://www.rebol.com/r3/notes/delayed-mods.html
Maxim
13-Apr-2010
[2048]
that is cool... something Carl has been musing about for a long time.
BrianH
14-Apr-2010
[2049]
It will be more than just extensions that will be able to be delayed, 
any modules will be delayable. I'll be discussing things in the !REBOL3 
Modules group here tomorrow if anyone has questions or suggestions 
about this stuff.
btiffin
14-Apr-2010
[2050x2]
I could google and poke around, but I'd rather Ask a Friendly Human. 
 Where are we at with GUI and GNU/Linux?  I get a crash;
** Script error: size-text has no value

** Where: font-char-size? make make-text-style parse fontize do do 
either load-gui
** Near: font-char-size? self

Is if worth digging in for?  Fonts?  etc.  Or, is it a don't bother 
yet?
from
>> load-gui
that is
Pekr
14-Apr-2010
[2052]
we are not far ... yet ... R3 GUI should be pushed forward by Robert's 
team, but guys are mostly waiting for Carl to turn View into regular 
Extension, and releasing its sources, so that low-level View enhancements 
can be done. As for VID itself, we are still in kind of wait mode 
imo ...
btiffin
14-Apr-2010
[2053]
Thanks Pekr; I'm at 1:30am, and just knowing will make for an easier 
sleep; no frets about missing the memo  ;)
Cyphre
16-Apr-2010
[2054x2]
Does anyone know if these are bugs in R3 or am I missing some new 
feature?

>> append #{} [#{01} #{02} #{03}]
** Script error: invalid argument: [#{01} #{02} #{03}]
** Where: append
** Near: append #{} [#{01} #{02} #{03}]

>> rejoin [#{01} #{02} #{03}]
** Script error: invalid argument: [#{02} #{03}]
** Where: append rejoin
** Near: append either series? first block [copy first block] [
    f...

>> join #{} [#{01} #{02} #{03}]
** Script error: invalid argument: [#{01} #{02} #{03}]
** Where: applier apply repend join
** Near: series reduce :value part length only dup count

Tested under 2.100.97.3.1 version.
sorry,nevermind....just found that here http://curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=1452&cursor=1
Graham
17-Apr-2010
[2056]
http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0311.html

Asking for R3 critical fixes
amacleod
17-Apr-2010
[2057]
sounds good...back on track
Geomol
18-Apr-2010
[2058x2]
Are TO and MAKE considered the same in R3? (same? doesn't return 
true, but the two functions seem to work the same, or maybe there 
is a differenct?)
They are different:

>> to string! 42
== "42"
>> make string! 42
== ""

With MAKE, it's the length of the created string.
BrianH
18-Apr-2010
[2060]
TO and MAKE are considered different in R3, but for some types they 
do the same thing; not string though.
Pekr
19-Apr-2010
[2061x3]
are following operations correct?

b: to-ginary 1022
== #{00000000000003FE}

b/7
== 3

b/8
== 254

Why does it return integers, and not a binary?
sorry - typo in above - should be to-binary, of course ...
also - is following operation what is expected?

>> lx: lx or #{8000}
== #{80000000000003FE}

>> to-integer lx
== -9223372036854774786

Whereas I would expect OR being performed on the lowest bytes!

>> #{8000} or #{03FE}
== #{83FE}

>> #{8000} or #{03FE}
== #{83FE}
Maxim
19-Apr-2010
[2064]
just like strings return chars.
Pekr
19-Apr-2010
[2065x2]
I find binary handling, along with inability to join binary resuls 
severyl broken
Max - this is imo wrong ... how is that usefull? I did not ask it 
return integer ... imo /index should still return original type
Maxim
19-Apr-2010
[2067x3]
binary is a string of  bytes, so that it returns 8 bit integers to 
me is VERY usefull.
what you say is equal to:

a: [1 2 3 4 5 6]
a/3
== [3]
binary is a series, and indexes return, like all other series, the 
element which constitutes it at the index you give it.
Pekr
19-Apr-2010
[2070]
OK, I can accept that ... but is R3 OR operation, performing OR on 
the higher bytes correct?
BrianH
19-Apr-2010
[2071]
If you are concerned about alignment, manage it yourself. The behavior 
is extremely consistent, so that such management is easy.
Pekr
19-Apr-2010
[2072x2]
Brian:  how is that supposed to be easy? The way it is, I have to 
count on the internal representation binary size - here 64 bits ...
I am asking binary 1024 to be ORred with binary #{8000}, the result 
is imo crap :-)
BrianH
19-Apr-2010
[2074]
Yes, but that 64 bits is a known, consistent quantity. Very predicatble.
Pekr
19-Apr-2010
[2075x2]
but the result is imo wrong anyway, no?
This is correct:

>> (to-binary 1022) or (to-binary 32768)
== #{00000000000083FE}
BrianH
19-Apr-2010
[2077x2]
No, binaries are right-padded. You should have been ORing with a 
binary of the proper sixe. R3 was nice enough to add the 0s that 
you didn't provide. It's just your assmption that was off :(
sixe -> size
Pekr
19-Apr-2010
[2079x3]
no, it is not ...
>> to-integer #{8000}
== 32768
What assumption are you talking about? If you were right, then above 
binary should be paddedd too ...