World: r3wp

Shadwolf. We discussed this a lot of time and the discussion would 
be better for Advocacy.

We all hope that the host openess of REBOL3 together with its improvements 
will break the cage where REBOL has been for years.

Also remember that REBOL is difficult to understand if you come from 
classic OO languages which actually rules the world. At least, it 
was difficult for me.

i don't find rebol so hard to understand (most of it  for parse for 
example i still seek the light ...)

I have gone crazy to remove from my mind the concept of pointers; 
also the concepts covered by Ladislav articles like binding are difficult 
to digest; finally classic OOP versus Prototype Based OOP has been 
very hard until someone told me how to understand these concepts.

what may be more difficult to digest than the concepts my articles 
cover is my style of writing ;-)

(sorry for causing any headaches), and, I might have even caused 
more serious problems in one case

Headaches are caused by the innovative intrinsic nature of the concepts, 
nto ny your articles.

It's like Feynman apologizing that he couldn't make physics easier 
to understand. :-)

classic OOP

 - actually, "prototype" is "classic" (ie. what was invented by Alan 
 Kay etc.), while class-based is what came out of C++ mostly.

From now I will change "Classic OOP" to "Common OOP" :-)

Gregg, many things can became difficult due to the background "trash" 
you have in mind.

as we are already in "picky" mode: actually, dahl/nygaard's simula, 
which invented class-based OOP, predates smalltalk.

ah, i didn't remember simula was class based. hmm, so it's hard to 
say what is really "classic" I guess...

yes. talking about "mainstream oop" would be more precise, i guess

depends how you classify mainstream.... JS/ECMA is prototype and 
its the most used language on the planet   ;-)

tomorrow will be my birthday. ;-) .i wish to have some news of R3 
and host kit and R3GUI and asyn and .......... and perhaps a windows 
or linux version of R3 + R3GUI (with table widget) and RIF and R3/services 
 ;-)

Claude - please come next year the same day then :-)

... well, that was for a host kit and maybe a GUI ... as for RIF 
and R3/Services - wait 5 years ...

What does Carl mean by his Twitte message?: "We need to update libs 
and funcs for REBOL 3. Should we host a R3 "summer of code?""

we're on different worlds ...

what do you mean by "we are on different worlds"?

So, has there been *any* recent physical progress on R3 in recent 
weeks ?

You were here standing like us, Graham :)

But I'm the only one complaining!

I was in Alaska with no internet access - you tell me.

I was here having fun looking others complaining

BrianH: I watched your "steps" via Facebook :-)

Brian, cruise?

off topicc, I know

Asking Sarah Palin for a job?

I think there is currently no progress, but I can't say it loudly, 
as Max will jump here telling me, that Carl is working hard on a 
host kit :-)

trying to validate her claim about what she could see from her front 
porch?

Yeah, with (and paid for by) the family :) No job, unfortunately.

But Carl said he finished the host kit for windows a month ago ...

the only thing I can complain about is that Carl has been VERY silent 
for a month, even on R3 chat.

He apparently did not do so ...

which usually means he is in deep thought.

... or in deep sleep :-)

or in a catatonic state

IIRC last thing we heard from Carl was callback related stuff ...

No, he said he had a build that worked. Since the new host kit represents 
a new API, I would guess that he has to make a few other platforms 
to sort out the platform-dependencies in the API.

for BrianH: http://www.rebol.com/r3/notes/callbacks.html

Some of you may be wondering where the Host Kit is for A99?

The good news: the lib and host have been built and run on Win32.

Let him who is without sin, throw the first stone

where are the stones ??

The last Twitter message states: "We need to update libs and funcs 
for REBOL 3. Should we host a R3 "summer of code?""

rolling stones :-)

Pekr, saw that one. It's missing discussion of tasking issues.

>> switch true [true [1]]
== none

Why.

Ehm, because it word! and not logic!, ignore it.

>> switch true [#[true] [1]]
== 1